Rule A5: Continued

[Inseriousity.]

In regards to the issue I believe runescape rules need revising to highlight further that Habbox has no responsibility over Habbo-Runescape trades however unless Jin notifies us otherwise it's not something that will be changed.

I think this is already the case? I'm sure I saw it somewhere or maybe I'm seeing things!
edit: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=628432 - yeah here it is! first sentence is clear enough that it's the responsibility of the user.


I think it is rather unfair to criticise any management of "ignoring users concerns" as management do what they feel is best for the forum etc. There was a time in the runescape forum when the only activity was people trading (I think it might have picked itself back up now though) and I wonder if we went into that forum what they'd say to forum management banning it as after all, they are the ones using it and therefore it would be their concern that management should focus on imo

[Redtiz]

1) Redtiz does deal with Habbo Fansites sometimes, but is not the only one that frequently visits our forums. We get several, and when they don't like something they email management about it and it has always been promptly dealt with, I assume this was no different.

No, I don't deal with Habbo fansites at all.


Just to clear up this Runescape/Habbo trading stuff:

1. Habbos T&Cs and Runescape's T&Cs are completely separate things and what one allows, the other may not.
2. As far as Habbo's T&Cs are concerned trading Habbo furni for items from other games is not against our T&Cs (so we don't ban you for it) BUT we highly discourage anyone doing it because such trades have no security whatsoever and you're more than likely to end up giving away your Habbo items and getting nothing in return.
3. Habbo's rules have no bearing on Runescapes rules, if their rules are that you cannot trade their items for items from other games then you obviously risk getting your Runescape account banned if you're caught doing so.
4. Habbo's rules are quite simple - you cannot sell furni for cash, nor can you trade or sell your accounts.

Hope that clears things up

[Callum.]

Wiizzz, HabboxForum breaks the Fansite Way in no manner, we've only broken it once and we got in quite a bit of trouble for it, well we didn't Kazopark did.

At the end of the day we are a Habbo fansite and we will follow the rules Habbo present to us, it's these rules we monitor for changes and developments. We will not constantly monitor other sites that we have minute sections on, it's not plausible and quite frankly our management would be doing nothing else but rules research.

HabboxForum has allowed the trading of Habbo to Runescape for many years and whilst runescape have sent us emails about botting and account trading they have never contacted us regarding this, so either way it must be a relatively new rule or they would have mentioned it in previous correspondence.

Perhaps it is time to refresh the rules on runescape with this now coming to light, I asked Jin about the matter when I was a Super Moderator and was informed that it wasn't technically against Jagex rules - as shown in your first post they seem to have reworded certain rules to forbid the trading for benefits on other sites - this is now pretty clear that it's against the rules, so perhaps Catzsy and Cosmic are correct it would seem Habbox needs to update this now it has been brought to our attention.

However, there was no need for us to find this out ourselves, as I have said we are a dedicated Habbo Fansite and will follow the rules that Habbo provide us and of course International Laws.

This isn't aimed at your post, mainly just in general and some things you've said.

Okkkk. As an actual user of the runescape forum, past and present, I'm just intrigued as why you want to kill the subforum completely? With free trade coming back, it is a chance for the section to reclaim some of its old members as well as get new ones from people trading from runescape to habbo or vice versa. In the past it's never been a problem, yet it's always been a rule breaking offence, it's always had a blind eye taken to it. I honestly don't understand how one member can get a rule changed which made the runescape section what it is. Whether you needed a few HC's and had some cash on rune or you were quitting for the other game, trading is what kept people coming to the section.

This site isn't sythe, ***** or FJ, it's simply a habbo forum which doesn't bring in some super cool hackers and cheaters, merely a few people who break a few rules by trading over the games. It isn't making a company that bots it's gold tons of money to bot more, it's staying in the game on both games. If you get rid of this, you're just like erasing some of the sections history and future (possible) glory.

No, I don't deal with Habbo fansites at all.


Just to clear up this Runescape/Habbo trading stuff:

1. Habbos T&Cs and Runescape's T&Cs are completely separate things and what one allows, the other may not.
2. As far as Habbo's T&Cs are concerned trading Habbo furni for items from other games is not against our T&Cs (so we don't ban you for it) BUT we highly discourage anyone doing it because such trades have no security whatsoever and you're more than likely to end up giving away your Habbo items and getting nothing in return.
3. Habbo's rules have no bearing on Runescapes rules, if their rules are that you cannot trade their items for items from other games then you obviously risk getting your Runescape account banned if you're caught doing so.
4. Habbo's rules are quite simple - you cannot sell furni for cash, nor can you trade or sell your accounts.

Hope that clears things up

Clears it up, let it stay, and don't let a member change something so pointlessly. It's like a self kill, why even bring it up?

[Zak]

No, I don't deal with Habbo fansites at all.


Just to clear up this Runescape/Habbo trading stuff:

1. Habbos T&Cs and Runescape's T&Cs are completely separate things and what one allows, the other may not.
2. As far as Habbo's T&Cs are concerned trading Habbo furni for items from other games is not against our T&Cs (so we don't ban you for it) BUT we highly discourage anyone doing it because such trades have no security whatsoever and you're more than likely to end up giving away your Habbo items and getting nothing in return.
3. Habbo's rules have no bearing on Runescapes rules, if their rules are that you cannot trade their items for items from other games then you obviously risk getting your Runescape account banned if you're caught doing so.
4. Habbo's rules are quite simple - you cannot sell furni for cash, nor can you trade or sell your accounts.

Hope that clears things up

That was very informative, thank you. I never knew that it wasn't against Habbo's T&Cs to trade furni for items in other games, but if it isn't against Habbo's T&Cs to trade furni onto other games then why does it break your T&Cs when it comes to selling your furni for cash?

I'm guessing it some legal mumbo-jumbo, as you could just trade your Habbo to Runescape, then sell it? But then again, that would make it Jagex's problem, not yours?

[Arch]

kinda off-topic but Wizzz why do you want to ruin something good? that will bring activity to the forum and,
about a section you barely use *REMOVED*

Edited by HotelUser (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't be rude to others thanks.

[Stephen]

hi redtiz can i have ur autograph

Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator):
Please stay on-topic. Thanks

[The Professor]

Hi all, happy new year and all that,

Real world trading (trading runescape items for anything else that isnt a runescape item) has always been banned by jagex, whats all this talk of "oh its only against the rules now because jagex altered a rule?" And HxF have always known this and always turned a blind eye to it with the disclaimer that Hx doesn't care if you get scammed. Why is this suddenly an issue now?

Sorry for the bump, its still kinda on the first page though

[nvrspk4]

People didn't like that, and also some thought that it violated the Habbo T&C which we don't turn a blind eye to.

Redtiz kindly clarified that it is not against the Habbo T&C and the matter was put to rest. Then you revived it