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    Quote Originally Posted by Saurav View Post
    Turn themselves in? Lol they won't. Obviously the Govement has the people in the database hence they are receiving benefits. :S
    And so you dont trust the source, but you still want to quite it? Thats hypocrisy. :rolleyes:
    The figure could have gone down, but you still say "over a million" with no proof. You are making your posts seem less reliable by the minute...
    They would when their illegal employment is taken away/any benefits they are recieving from the state. On the government in the benefits database, kind of and kind of not. The databases of the government are very expansive and can be duped by these people who can give false addresses, false ID and fake names and still claim (we have some of our own, they are called benefit cheats).

    Well put it this way, if the Labour government says something is one then its most likely two - as shown by employment figures which do not include people on disability, where from what I read the figure of unemployed apparently hits the 8 million mark from the 3 million mark (again, what I have read in the past).

    The figure gone down? - have the government done a big crackdown, wow - well I must of missed it despite being an avid follower of politics!!. Lets not be silly here; another report put it at close to a million also; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-1million.html - so as I said previously, figures range but the estimates are around the one million mark.

    For the ninth time I will ask again (why are you refusing to reply to it?); So do you still support the BNP not being allowed a racial membership policy but continue to allow the Conservatives & Labour to have a racial candidate shortlist policy implemented?
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    Daily Mail? ROFL. I wont class that as a source. Still not over a million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucy View Post
    Daily Mail? ROFL. I wont class that as a source. Still not over a million.
    The source within, the Mail is a news outlet and therefore is reporting a source and not providing a source which is from the London School of Economics. Therefore what I said is right, the figure is an estimated rough one million but we'll never know the real number obviously. One million, give or take a 100,000 or two. I'm glad we have now finally established there is a problem and a way to go about it.

    For the tenth time anyway back to the real topic and I think its rather important you answer as you have been one of the most critical people of the BNP who supports Labour, so a reply would be in order I think; So do you still support the BNP not being allowed a racial membership policy but continue to allow the Conservatives & Labour to have a racial candidate shortlist policy implemented?


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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The source within, the Mail is a news outlet and therefore is reporting a source and not providing a source which is from the London School of Economics. Therefore what I said is right, the figure is an estimated rough one million but we'll never know the real number obviously. One million, give or take a 100,000 or two. I'm glad we have now finally established there is a problem and a way to go about it.

    For the tenth time anyway back to the real topic and I think its rather important you answer as you have been one of the most critical people of the BNP who supports Labour, so a reply would be in order I think; So do you still support the BNP not being allowed a racial membership policy but continue to allow the Conservatives & Labour to have a racial candidate shortlist policy implemented?
    Again, I will quote my post again:
    Stop presuming I agree with you to satisfy yourself. It really doesn't look good or clever. It actually makes the writer look childish.

    I just wish you would read my posts properly.
    Anyway I honestly cant be bothered repeating myself over and over as I don't have tomorrow off unlike someone, so I am tired and need to go to bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucy View Post
    Again, I will quote my post again:
    Stop presuming I agree with you to satisfy yourself. It really doesn't look good or clever. It actually makes the writer look childish.

    I just wish you would read my posts properly.
    Anyway I honestly cant be bothered repeating myself over and over as I don't have tomorrow off unlike someone, so I am tired and need to go to bed.
    Good Night.
    Daily Mail ... rofl seriously. :rolleyes:
    You obviously do because you have slowly but surely accepted what I made about the UKIP points to your points and do not seem to have a counter-argument for them and instead continue to dispute data which I myself have stated is very shaky data due to the lack of evidence on numbers, that would suggest you actually now agree with me on the points that I have made and are only holding out on the data source as something to cling onto whats left of the discussion you intitated about UKIP.

    On the Daily Mail, you just ignored the points I made (again) about the source within. The source is not the Daily Mail as the Daily Mail did not provide these figures, granted if the Daily Mail had provided the figures rather than the London School of Economics then yes, it would be a pretty unreliable source. So now we have established the figure is estimated to of risen (as I said originally from 2007 to 2010 [present]).

    I am going to ask for the eleventh time;- because if i'm not reading your posts properly then something is seriously up with you because you continue to duck my question which I have highlighted in eleven posts since we started this discussion, here it is yet again; So do you still support the BNP not being allowed a racial membership policy but continue to allow the Conservatives & Labour to have a racial candidate shortlist policy implemented?
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    No LOL. You are being pathethic by pretending, hoping, praying I also agree with you and that party called UKIP. Thats all you do, patronise people considering I have told you THREE times to stop it. I guess it gives a good picture of the UKIP. That is probably why they arent in power ... makes sense to me.

    Right, let me be you.
    I am glad we agree that you admit you contradicted yourself and made a fool of yourself as first you say you dont want to let anyone in the country for 5 years. Then you say you find it disgusting that people's ethics, race and all other factors should be considered for a job. Already you have contradicted yourself here.
    Finally we have agreed on something! Gosh! Took a while but it takes time for some people, its ok .
    Oh and then you go and say you will expect the illegal immigrants to turn themselves over. I mean, lets be realistic here. Oh wait, glad we agree UKIP never are.

    Last night, sierk told me he is giving away Habbox to SkaterChu. The information comes direct from the Habbox Offices in Hong Kong!
    Go find me where the LSE have stated the figures. I dont even bother wasting my time reading the Daily Mail. Hardly anyone in this country takes them seriously, and rightly so.

    I havent answered your question as I havent read those posts regarding the Labour and racial candidate. I will read up on it and happily reply by midnight, so you can stop using the "I am going to ask you for the...". Frustrating isnt it? You do it to everyone when you realise you are wrong.

    Man, thats 8 times I remember you having contradicted yourself in the last few months.
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    No LOL. You are being pathethic by pretending, hoping, praying I also agree with you and that party called UKIP. Thats all you do, patronise people considering I have told you THREE times to stop it. I guess it gives a good picture of the UKIP. That is probably why they arent in power ... makes sense to me.
    I answered all your questions on UKIPs immigration policy yet you seem to have no reply to them, either you agree or you are stuck for words to reply with.

    Right, let me be you.
    I am glad we agree that you admit you contradicted yourself and made a fool of yourself as first you say you dont want to let anyone in the country for 5 years. Then you say you find it disgusting that people's ethics, race and all other factors should be considered for a job. Already you have contradicted yourself here.
    Finally we have agreed on something! Gosh! Took a while but it takes time for some people, its ok .
    Yes, and a blanket ban isnt 'other factors' because it doesnt take peoples factors such as lifestyle, wealth, race and so forth into account when they would be trying to enter this country because there would be a blanket ban, henceforth it wouldnt be discrimitory because it would be a blanket ban. If my school is full and i'm the headteacher and I say to no matter who else applies to come to my school "sorry my school is full but you can apply next year" - how is that hypocritcal to me saying that jobs/entry to this country should not be based on who you are but what you have done? - it isnt.

    Oh and then you go and say you will expect the illegal immigrants to turn themselves over. I mean, lets be realistic here. Oh wait, glad we agree UKIP never are.
    I've already explained that, but yet again you go right past it. If their employment and benefits are cut then they will turn themselves in because they will not have any food, accomedation or money - its a very very simple idea and it would work, they would have no other option. Why did you ignore this and put this point across again?

    Last night, sierk told me he is giving away Habbox to SkaterChu. The information comes direct from the Habbox Offices in Hong Kong!
    Go find me where the LSE have stated the figures. I dont even bother wasting my time reading the Daily Mail. Hardly anyone in this country takes them seriously, and rightly so.
    Is that why the Daily Mail is the second most read paper in the country?

    The London School of Economics has stated the estimated guess of how many people are illegally in this country, which again I have shown ties in what what I said; around the one million mark. So whether its 100,000 illegal immigrations as you might choose to think, 300,000 or 1,100,000 there is a problem and UKIP have offered a solution to it.

    The London School of Economics could be totally wrong for all I know, the figures could be 1.5 million - again as I said, the problem needs sorting to it doesnt get bigger and far worse. It puts enormous strain on our country.

    I havent answered your question as I havent read those posts regarding the Labour and racial candidate. I will read up on it and happily reply by midnight, so you can stop using the "I am going to ask you for the...". Frustrating isnt it? You do it to everyone when you realise you are wrong.

    Man, thats 8 times I remember you having contradicted yourself in the last few months.
    Thank you for finally agreeing to reply, and you obviously did read my posts with Tash otherwise you wouldn't have called me a hypocrite - or is it the actual case that you dont read my posts and just start a rant about UKIP whenever you wish?
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