PDA

View Full Version : Taxes - Good or bad? - [Closes 18/10/07]



---MAD---
18-09-2007, 06:51 PM
Many people complain about paying taxes and hate the time of month when they have to pay the tax bills.

Do you think taxes are good or bad for countries/economies?

Happy debating!

cocaine
18-09-2007, 06:52 PM
People should stop whining, they pay a small amount and then from the rest of the countries tax's they can be put back into making a better Britain.

Browney
18-09-2007, 07:12 PM
It's not so much good or bad, but it's necessary. The money for new houses, the upkeep of towns etc has to come from somewhere, so they created a council tax.

mat64
18-09-2007, 07:33 PM
I don't there is a more efficient way to get money for the running of our country outside of taxes. I do however, Think thats some things that are taxed in this country and aren't in others are slightly unfair.

GommeInc
18-09-2007, 08:51 PM
Random debate. Taxes are good, it's only daft over taxing which is bad.

Virgin Mary
18-09-2007, 09:06 PM
The concept itself is good. Whether it's put to ridiculous use is bad.

Soy
18-09-2007, 09:19 PM
Taxing overall is a good thing as it goes to health, schools etc. If we didn't pay taxes we couldnt get health care etc

Spectate
18-09-2007, 09:45 PM
Taxes are completely necessary, unless you have anarchist tendencies. Maybe it'd be better to debate whether they should be higher / lower? :P Just a suggestion.

FlyingJesus
18-09-2007, 09:48 PM
The concept itself is good. Whether it's put to ridiculous use is bad.

Debate over.

GommeInc
18-09-2007, 10:03 PM
Debate over.
Well that was a simple debate o.O

jesus
18-09-2007, 10:26 PM
Bad because they just get spent on stupid things.

RedStratocas
19-09-2007, 12:00 AM
this is the stupidest debate ever. it's all about moderation. this is like asking "food - good or bad?"

Concentric2
19-09-2007, 09:58 AM
Good or bad? What a stupid question :eusa_eh:

Seacat
19-09-2007, 05:37 PM
I take it you don't have a job then? Every month before I even see my wage about £450 is taken off it for income tax and national insurance. Then on top of that I have car tax to pay, tax on the petrol I buy, tax on everything else I buy. Then at christmas I get a nice little bonus, but before I even see that the tax mans had half of it away.


People should stop whining, they pay a small amount and then from the rest of the countries tax's they can be put back into making a better Britain.

I think it's an absolute con. I know we have to pay taxes to keep the country running e.t.c. e.t.c. but I don't see why we should be taxed on absolutely everything. For example working overtime at work you get paid extra for doing, but by the time you've been taxed on it you're no better off anyway.

And it wouldn't be so bad if you could see your taxes been used, but when you call the police it takes them 24 hours to respond; people are waiting on hospital waiting lists so long that they decide to pay private (after paying tax to keep the NHS going) and you go out on the roads and they're all gridlocked because the transport system is rubbish. (it's just taken me one hour to travel 6 miles to my house all because a set of traffic lights aren't working).

Concentric2
19-09-2007, 05:43 PM
I take it you don't have a job then?
Who is this aimed at? The question is still silly whether you think we are overtaxed or not. It would be better to say "Do you think we are overtaxed?"

Seacat
19-09-2007, 05:44 PM
At Mattmeister (hence I quoted him :P)


Who is this aimed at? The question is still silly whether you think we are overtaxed or not. It would be better to say "Do you think we are overtaxed?"

Concentric2
19-09-2007, 05:45 PM
At Mattmeister (hence I quoted him :P)
The positioning of the quote meant i thought only the second part of what you said was refering to him.

Dave,
19-09-2007, 10:06 PM
I'm not a huge fan of taxes.

Take last month for instance. I started a new job on the 16th Aug and should have earnt £304, I got £66, 22% of my wages taken away because I was put on the wrong tax code. I should be on 522L but they put me on Basic Rate. Now I could have really done with that extra £66 this month.

Personally I believe that most people under 20 should not be taxed at all. I'm at college five days of the week and I work Thursday and Friday night and then 10 hours on Saturday and 9 on Sunday. I'm always exhausted and I really think it isn't fair that I should be charged tax if I go over £5220 a year.

Most students at Uni will get taxed as well, which is also unfair since all of their time will be taken up by Uni or Work so what little money they/we do earn I think we should keep.

Bit off topic here but people getting EMA to go to college, I think that is absolutely ridiculous, tax payers money for people to go to college. Put it back in to Uni so we don't have to pay too much.

crans
19-09-2007, 10:27 PM
Theres no way a country can be successful without paying tax, or there would be no money to run the country.

This is a stupid debate.

WarezKid
20-09-2007, 05:16 PM
Theres no way a country can be successful without paying tax, or there would be no money to run the country.

This is a stupid debate.



Argeed. :)

Jamie!
21-09-2007, 04:40 PM
And it wouldn't be so bad if you could see your taxes been used, but when you call the police it takes them 24 hours to respond; people are waiting on hospital waiting lists so long that they decide to pay private (after paying tax to keep the NHS going) and you go out on the roads and they're all gridlocked because the transport system is rubbish. (it's just taken me one hour to travel 6 miles to my house all because a set of traffic lights aren't working).

If you think that is bad though, imagine what it would be like if we didn't have to pay taxes.

Seacat
21-09-2007, 11:22 PM
That's what I'm saying though - to some degree I don't mind paying taxes as long as you can see them been effective. For example I begrudge paying car tax that is supposed to go towards making the transport system (roads etc) good and then sitting in traffic for hours because the lights aren't working or because some contracted construction company decide to block a whole lane of a dual carriageway off just because they can. E.g. I was going down a main road in Leeds the other day and a construction company (Laing o Roukes or something) cordened off about a mile of the road just because some main bosses were coming to inspect the work that was being carried out. And the only reason it was cordoned off? So that the bosses and other people could park their cars there.

That caused tailbacks for ages because the road is busy enough already.


If you think that is bad though, imagine what it would be like if we didn't have to pay taxes.

GommeInc
21-09-2007, 11:27 PM
Taxes are working. The NHS in Essex and East London are the best NHS I have come across. Queen's Hospital in Romford, which isn't a year old yet is very well built and youn would think it was a university just by looking at it and going in the main entrance. Not to mention it is clean and well kept.

The Police Forces, Essex Air Ambulance, Fire Services are also reasonably good in Essex.

I suppose taxes have a different effect on different areas though. Dealing with congestion is impossible, unless you suggest re-routing roads through the countryside :rolleyes:

T0M
22-09-2007, 01:27 AM
Taxes to and extent are necessary and a good thing, but Brown is a bit tax mad and introduces stealth taxes and new taxes which is just taking money from our pockets and into the treasury, and then wasted of idiotic ideas

Another insane tax being proposed by all parties i think is the tax on short haul flights :l co2 is not causing the earth to heat up and we are wasting millions on schemes to stop something we are not causing nor have any control over

&
22-09-2007, 11:49 AM
Taxes are good.
The rates are bad.

Isnt it like 23p in every pound?

GommeInc
22-09-2007, 05:32 PM
Taxes to and extent are necessary and a good thing, but Brown is a bit tax mad and introduces stealth taxes and new taxes which is just taking money from our pockets and into the treasury, and then wasted of idiotic ideas

Another insane tax being proposed by all parties i think is the tax on short haul flights :l co2 is not causing the earth to heat up and we are wasting millions on schemes to stop something we are not causing nor have any control over
I agree with your statements. It is idiotic to think we can stop global warming, which IS a part of earth's nature.

-:Undertaker:-
22-09-2007, 06:06 PM
This is a stupid debate, it says 'Is it good for the countrys economy', well there would be no economy if there was no tax.


Random debate. Taxes are good, it's only daft over taxing which is bad.

Thanks to Labour.


Taxes to and extent are necessary and a good thing, but Brown is a bit tax mad and introduces stealth taxes and new taxes which is just taking money from our pockets and into the treasury, and then wasted of idiotic ideas

Another insane tax being proposed by all parties i think is the tax on short haul flights :l co2 is not causing the earth to heat up and we are wasting millions on schemes to stop something we are not causing nor have any control over

+REP you, like GommeInc, actually can think for yourself

WarezKid
30-09-2007, 11:15 AM
Argeed with seacat.

Nixt
30-09-2007, 11:19 AM
I'm not a huge fan of taxes.

Take last month for instance. I started a new job on the 16th Aug and should have earnt £304, I got £66, 22% of my wages taken away because I was put on the wrong tax code. I should be on 522L but they put me on Basic Rate. Now I could have really done with that extra £66 this month.

Personally I believe that most people under 20 should not be taxed at all. I'm at college five days of the week and I work Thursday and Friday night and then 10 hours on Saturday and 9 on Sunday. I'm always exhausted and I really think it isn't fair that I should be charged tax if I go over £5220 a year.

Most students at Uni will get taxed as well, which is also unfair since all of their time will be taken up by Uni or Work so what little money they/we do earn I think we should keep.

Bit off topic here but people getting EMA to go to college, I think that is absolutely ridiculous, tax payers money for people to go to college. Put it back in to Uni so we don't have to pay too much.

If you're in full time education you shouldn't be taxed - unless it's emergency tax and a) that's never much and b) you can claim it back. Like this month I got paid around £670 and only got taxed £17.

Mentor
30-09-2007, 03:02 PM
tax is generally a good thing, without it, everything from the emergany services to the nhs would be impossible.

Kyle.tk
01-10-2007, 03:13 PM
taxing is a necessary to keep the country running. The fact that its spent on sponging, dossing chavs who have done nothing in life but firstly been adisruption in lessons at school, bullied children at school and then think its ok for them to sponge off the benefits system because they can't be bothered working or going to college is the reason I hate getting taxed.

Kross619
01-10-2007, 04:43 PM
I don't think that the country could survive without taxes, but as most of you have said it isn't being spent on worthwhile things.

For instance, on my street there are around 10 streetlamps going up, they have been stood up for about 3 weeks and the council hasn't been to finish them.

We need to take a stand, not against ALL taxes but against taxes that buy MPs an extra house in the countryside, because, eventually we will all be in houses on crappy streets with half finished streetlamps that have been left undone for a year and a house that's falling apart.

Frodo13.
08-10-2007, 09:16 PM
Taxes are obviously needed for our country to survive, however, they are not being used in the correct way e.g going to lazy people who can't be botherd to go out and get a job.

Notex
09-10-2007, 04:44 AM
I dont mind paying tax.. its just a shame when the government gives the money away to low life socialists sitting on the dole.

CrazyColaist
10-10-2007, 05:35 PM
Good but shoud go lowerrrr

Want to hide these adverts? Register an account for free!