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immense
01-06-2010, 03:00 PM
Other threads was rumours, this is fact:

England squad confirmed on TheFA.com now, seven who miss out are Baines, Dawson, Huddlestone, Parker, Adam Johnson, Walcott, Bent.

W00TZEH
01-06-2010, 03:03 PM
didn't really need another thread tbh

Geraint
01-06-2010, 03:04 PM
nice to see fabio keeping with his "in-form" policy.

immense
01-06-2010, 03:05 PM
Glad he was brave enough to whack walcott out - that is based on form.

Browney
01-06-2010, 03:12 PM
Huddlestone > Carrick
Parker > Carrick
Johnson > Cole
Bent > Defoe.
Walcott (is awful, but hes still) > SWP
GOOD CALL, CAPELLO.

CHA!NGANG
01-06-2010, 03:19 PM
No need for another thread tbh.. But J. Cole is better than Johnson when he's on form.

Browney
01-06-2010, 03:27 PM
******* RAGH.
FORM AND FITNESS.
Capello's a ******* hypocrit if he picks people on how good they can be. Johnson has been tearing it up for City. An improvement on Robinho, a former player of the year in the world. Cole has barely got back playing.

happy-thriller
01-06-2010, 03:38 PM
Walcott out, I reckon England would really do better without him
Wayne Rooney will be there top goal scorer in the squad.

CHA!NGANG
01-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Cole has proven himself before, on the world stage and against the best club sides. 6 months ago Johnson was playing in the Championship. Who knows if he'll choke at the WC. I think Cole was a good choice as he seems to be fit now, and he's also more adapt to different positions. Saying that I'd rather Johnson then SWP. One left footer would have been nice.

JackBuddy
01-06-2010, 03:58 PM
If some of the newer players had more experience then they would have gone. I can understand Fabio not taking 7 rookies who have only played a handfull of games. Harry just said on Talksport that Parker and Dawson said that they felt like ghosts in training.

immense
01-06-2010, 03:59 PM
Cole is better than Johnson. That's the end of it really.

adidas
01-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Dawson has worked so hard in all of his games - he deserved a spot imagine how he must feel

immense
01-06-2010, 04:09 PM
realistically he would have known

Browney
01-06-2010, 04:14 PM
I won't say it again.

Ok, I will.
FORM AND FITNESS.
JOHNSON > COLE.

immense
01-06-2010, 04:17 PM
when both of them have been at the top of their game

cole > johnson

Gibs960
01-06-2010, 05:34 PM
I think Walcott should be on the team, he's a good winger, he plays well, how Lennon could get on the team after missing that shot against Japan I will never know....

immense
01-06-2010, 05:37 PM
At least lennon got into promising positions, more than we can say for Walcott.

Browney
01-06-2010, 05:41 PM
At least lennon got into promising positions, more than we can say for Walcott.

So did Bent. That's why Bent got on the pla-... ah.

immense
01-06-2010, 05:43 PM
a forward scores goals... he can do it against PL defences. not against the best defences in the world.

Gibs960
01-06-2010, 05:49 PM
So what he go into promising positions, if he can't put any away in these promising positions what's the point in getting into those positions?

Robbie
01-06-2010, 05:49 PM
how Lennon could get on the team after missing that shot against Japan I will never know....

Yes because the selection is based entirely around one game isn't it...

JackBuddy
01-06-2010, 05:58 PM
I think Walcott should be on the team, he's a good winger, he plays well, how Lennon could get on the team after missing that shot against Japan I will never know....
He was playing on the left wing and shot with his left foot. Lennon is England's best right sided player, can't leave him out.

immense
01-06-2010, 06:00 PM
what dya reckon starting XI is gna be

JackBuddy
01-06-2010, 06:04 PM
James

Usual suspects in defence.

Barry Lampard
Lennon Gerrard Cole
Rooney

CHA!NGANG
01-06-2010, 06:07 PM
I recon it will be:

------------------ Green ------------------
Johnson - Ferdinand - Terry - A. Cole
Lennon - Lampard - Barry - Gerrard
----------- Rooney - Heskey -----------

If we had to play that formation, I'd prefur it to be:

------------------- Hart -------------------
Johnson - Ferdinand - Terry - A. Cole
Lennon - Lampard - Barry - Gerrard
----------- Rooney - Crouch -----------

But over anything I'd prefur:

------------------- Hart -------------------
Johnson - Ferdinand - Terry - A. Cole
------------------- Barry ------------------
---------- Lampard - Gerrard ----------
------ Lennon - Rooney - J. Cole ------

Browney
01-06-2010, 06:42 PM
Hart
Johnson - King - Terry - Ferdinand - Cole
Lampard - Barry
Milner ------------- Gerrard
Rooney

>:}

immense
01-06-2010, 07:00 PM
idk about keeper

johnson ferdinand terry cole

lennon lampard barry gerrard

heskey rooney

JackBuddy
01-06-2010, 07:05 PM
Hart

Johnson - King - Terry - Ferdinand - Cole
Lampard - Barry
Milner ------------- Gerrard
Rooney


>:}


No Bent? ;)

Browney
01-06-2010, 08:56 PM
a forward scores goals... he can do it against PL defences. not against the best defences in the world.

Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Vermaelen, Sagna, Gallas, King, Dawson, Skrtl, Agger, Carragher.

Not a bad resume to score goals past.

Bent isn't world-class. Nor is Crouch/Defoe/Heskey. I think we should use the full-backs' attacking skills better, by using them as wing-backs with 3 CBs and 2 CDMs and reduce the dependence on strikers, in which the depth is poor. So to attack, the formation would be:


Hart

King - Ferdinand - Terry
Johnson ------- Barry - Lampard ------- Cole
Milner ------------------- Gerrard
Rooney

CHA!NGANG
01-06-2010, 09:21 PM
If Hargreaves was fit:

---------------------- Hart ----------------------
---------- King - Ferdinand - Terry ----------
G. Johnson - Hargreaves - Barry - A. Cole
---------- Lampard -------- Gerrard ----------
-------------------- Rooney --------------------

Too defencive though :P

-Heart
01-06-2010, 09:23 PM
I'm alright with Capello being a hypocrite just so long as we win the damn thing.

Bit disappointed that Bent and Johnson didn't make it though.

majesticdragon
01-06-2010, 10:01 PM
Still amazed tht carick is there .... And not happy about leaving Johnson out apart from that he's got it perfect up to now I think just depend who gets played when obviously but I'd deffinatley have hart as number 1

Geraint
01-06-2010, 10:58 PM
---------------Barry-------
--------Gerrard--Lampard
Milner----------------------Cole

4-1-2-3 like Barcelona.

Browney
02-06-2010, 11:08 AM
If Hargreaves was fit:

---------------------- Hart ----------------------
---------- King - Ferdinand - Terry ----------
G. Johnson - Hargreaves - Barry - A. Cole
---------- Lampard -------- Gerrard ----------
-------------------- Rooney --------------------

Too defencive though :P

Haway man, this is international football. Defensive is how it's played. ;) Plus, you can get better over-laps with players like Milner and Gerrard who will cut in from the wing.


----- Barry --------- Lampard
Gerrard ---- Milner
Johnson -- Rooney -- Cole


It would also work wonders against Argentina, Portugal and any other team with tricky wingers. The full back can show them inside and push them into a CB without the added danger.

immense
02-06-2010, 02:44 PM
i think the squad would have been so much better if hargeaves had been fit, he was our best player in 2006 world cup and is a much better cdm than barry. great with set plays and just a better all round player than barry imo

W00TZEH
02-06-2010, 04:59 PM
---------------Hart---------------
Johnson-Terry-Ferdinand-Cole
-----------------------------------
Milner---Lampard--Barry--Cole
--------Gerrard------------------
------------------Rooney--------

Banana Pancakes
02-06-2010, 05:02 PM
You missed out a man silly billy.

W00TZEH
02-06-2010, 05:05 PM
we only need 10men

Banana Pancakes
02-06-2010, 05:08 PM
ahh you're right cos' we're bangin'

JackBuddy
02-06-2010, 06:45 PM
I wonder where England would be if Owen was good like he used to be.

Gibs960
02-06-2010, 07:23 PM
I just don't think Lennon is world class.

JackBuddy
02-06-2010, 07:36 PM
I think Walcott should be on the team, he's a good winger, he plays well, how Lennon could get on the team after missing that shot against Japan I will never know....


I just don't think Lennon is world class.

And Walcott is better than Lennon and world class?

CHA!NGANG
02-06-2010, 07:45 PM
And Walcott is better than Lennon and world class?

Yes :eusa_shif :afro:

luce
02-06-2010, 08:03 PM
No need for another thread tbh.. But J. Cole is better than Johnson when he's on form.

yeah he is way better i think he is the best in the country when he is on form so i hope he can pull it out in SA.

Black_Apalachi
03-06-2010, 01:22 AM
No need for another thread tbh.. But J. Cole is better than Johnson when he's on form.

Probably but he's far from on form with his injury and all. Trust me, I'm very excited to see how Johnson performs. ;)

Browney
03-06-2010, 07:53 AM
---------------Hart---------------
Johnson-Terry-Ferdinand-Cole
-----------------------------------
Milner---Lampard--Barry--Cole
--------Gerrard------------------
------------------Rooney--------

Lampard and Gerrard are too close to each other! *SCREAM*


I wonder where England would be if Owen was good like he used to be.

I still reckon Capello would play with a big fella up top. Rooney would still probably be our best player anyway.

CHA!NGANG
03-06-2010, 10:59 AM
Probably but he's far from on form with his injury and all. Trust me, I'm very excited to see how Johnson performs. ;)

Well he's coming into the WC without any injuries and fresh so I'd say he's on form now. I don't see Johnson playing a lot this WC but at the Euros he will I think.

Browney
03-06-2010, 11:07 AM
But he hasn't been playing, and when he has, it has been unspectacular. Again, Capello, said he only picks players who play regularly for their club, Cole hasn't done that. He's not a starter at least.

CHA!NGANG
03-06-2010, 11:13 AM
But he hasn't been playing, and when he has, it has been unspectacular. Again, Capello, said he only picks players who play regularly for their club, Cole hasn't done that. He's not a starter at least.

Neither has SWP though. By that judgement, Walcott should be at the WC.

Deak
03-06-2010, 11:19 AM
Squad numbers confirmed on FA website ...

So the starting 11 will be:

James



Johnson --- Terry --- Ferdiand --- A.Cole



Lennon --- Gerrard --- Lampard --- J.Cole



Rooney --- Crouch



Maybe not in those positions but they have the numbers 1-11 shirts ...

http://www.thefa.com/England/Team

CHA!NGANG
03-06-2010, 11:30 AM
Squad numbers confirmed on FA website ...

So the starting 11 will be:

James



Johnson --- Terry --- Ferdiand --- A.Cole



Lennon --- Gerrard --- Lampard --- J.Cole



Rooney --- Crouch



Maybe not in those positions but they have the numbers 1-11 shirts ...

http://www.thefa.com/England/Team




When Barrys fit I'm guessing he'll start. As for the keeper, James is probably the worst out of the 3 but it doesn't mean he'll start every game.

Browney
03-06-2010, 11:30 AM
Neither has SWP though. By that judgement, Walcott should be at the WC.

DAMN STRAIGHT. Walcott should be there ahead of SWP. SWP isn't playing at City, JOHNSON is ahead of him (:rolleyes:), Walcott is playing and Walcott has proven he can do the job for England.

CHA!NGANG
03-06-2010, 11:37 AM
DAMN STRAIGHT. Walcott should be there ahead of SWP. SWP isn't playing at City, JOHNSON is ahead of him (:rolleyes:), Walcott is playing and Walcott has proven he can do the job for England.

I agree, but sadly we are in a minority. :(

StefanWolves
04-06-2010, 12:48 AM
I think when Barry is fit, if he's fit, he will replace crouch and we will go 4-5-1.

That's what I'm hoping too... :P

Black_Apalachi
04-06-2010, 11:44 PM
Well he's coming into the WC without any injuries and fresh so I'd say he's on form now. I don't see Johnson playing a lot this WC but at the Euros he will I think.

I just hope Johnson doesn't crumble under the pressure. :(

CHA!NGANG
04-06-2010, 11:47 PM
I just hope Johnson doesn't crumble under the pressure. :(

I got it wrong and was talking about Adam Johnson by accident but realised he wasn't even in the squad :( Glen Johnson will play every game I think, unless he messes up. He should be ok with the pressure but needs to remember he's a defender.

Black_Apalachi
05-06-2010, 01:02 AM
I got it wrong and was talking about Adam Johnson by accident but realised he wasn't even in the squad :( Glen Johnson will play every game I think, unless he messes up. He should be ok with the pressure but needs to remember he's a defender.

Oh, haha fair enough. :P Yeah I know what you mean though - I used to get a bit nervous sometimes when he starts to burst forward but now I've seen what he can do at the end of it, I love it :8

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