England v USA

[AlexOC]

Now the excitement of the first match is over, time to focus on what matters, can we beat the yanks?

Coverage starts tomorrow, 6.15pm

Thread closed by Cosmic (Forum Moderator) to avoid further arguments.

[Stryderman]

no england is going to lose 1-0 to usaaaaaaa

its blatent england are crap anyway

[JackBuddy]

I was at the game when England beat them 3-0 at Wembley but there obv won't be a repeat of that. USA beat Spain in the Confederations Cup last year and are a very strong and organised side not to be taken lightly. I hope Lennon is up against Spector, Lennon absolutely pisses all over him every time they face eachother.

[CHA!NGANG]

Spector is terrible. Well when I watch him he is anyway.

Errm..

2-1 England.

[immense]

I disagree Jack, I am very optimistic and I predict a 3-0 England win. Like the guy said on SSN, the only biggish game we've played in the last 18 months or so, that meant anything was against Croatia (who before you say they're not a big team, have quality players and it was because of them we didn't qualify for Euro 08) we beat them proper!! That was the only game they've been in a must win frame of mind. The USA game will be the same. People have lost their optimism after the recent friendlies which mean sweet **** all.

[JackBuddy]

I disagree Jack, I am very optimistic and I predict a 3-0 England win. Like the guy said on SSN, the only biggish game we've played in the last 18 months or so, that meant anything was against Croatia (who before you say they're not a big team, have quality players and it was because of them we didn't qualify for Euro 08) we beat them proper!! That was the only game they've been in a must win frame of mind. The USA game will be the same. People have lost their optimism after the recent friendlies which mean sweet **** all.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=647578

Please read the first post in that thread. ;)

I'm not saying we can't beat them I'm just saying that the USA won't roll over as some people think.

Edit: Loads of places saying SWP starting ahead of Lennon. WHAT THE ****!!!

[Black_Apalachi]

I reckon they're well up for it and one or two of ours could be a bit shaky so I'm sticking with 2-1 us

[Bun]

3-0 england. people are overrating usa, yeh they're a decent team i watched the confeds cup last year and the quality was bad though :s

[ihatehash]

to be honest i have no idea what will happen and thats what this sport is like, i mean look at the 1st two matches. how many of you predicted those results? I will admit I want USA to win because if England win, knowing the English you'll bloat about it for years.

[JackBuddy]

to be honest i have no idea what will happen and thats what this sport is like, i mean look at the 1st two matches. how many of you predicted those results? I will admit I want USA to win because if England win, knowing the English you'll bloat about it for years.
Americans would be worse, I'd never be able to go on XBL again.

[StefanWolves]

to be honest i have no idea what will happen and thats what this sport is like, i mean look at the 1st two matches. how many of you predicted those results? I will admit I want USA to win because if England win, knowing the English you'll bloat about it for years.
We'd forever gloat? could you imagine the yanks?

I just hope we stuff the yanks, and play WELL. Cause If we win, but play poorly, you know what they'll say, ''ohh you played crap hahaha!''. Just hope we win and win convincingly to shut them up, not that they would be able to tell if we played well because their fans haven't got a clue of how to play football but yea...

And yeah Jack, I will never go on Live again in my life.

[JackBuddy]

We'd forever gloat? could you imagine the yanks?

I just hope we stuff the yanks, and play WELL. Cause If we win, but play poorly, you know what they'll say, ''ohh you played crap hahaha!''. Just hope we win and win convincingly to shut them up, not that they would be able to tell if we played well because their fans haven't got a clue of how to play football but yea...

And yeah Jack, I will never go on Live again in my life.

I can imagine it now

"hey shut up, we kicked your ass fagget"

(I know it's not spelt like that but it's how they say it)

[Niall!]

Kick off will start late at 19:39, USA will turn up at 19:41 and claim victory.

[Yoshimitsui]

Let's hope we don't have to listen to those stupid trumpets for 90 minutes. It sounds awful on the TV.

[CHA!NGANG]

Let's hope we don't have to listen to those stupid trumpets for 90 minutes. It sounds awful on the TV.

They are probably going to be used in every game. Extreamly annoying but you get used to them.

[StefanWolves]

The vuvuzela's don't bother me really lol. Although, hopefully, the England fans will sing above those and get some atmosphere going.

[JackBuddy]

The vuvuzela's don't bother me really lol. Although, hopefully, the England fans will sing above those and get some atmosphere going.
I wonder whether we'll be able to hear the band playing too.

[CHA!NGANG]

The vuvuzela's don't bother me really lol. Although, hopefully, the England fans will sing above those and get some atmosphere going.

Only 6,000 England fans out of 60,000 I think. 8,000 Americans, and the rest are neutrals I think.

[StefanWolves]

Only 6,000 England fans out of 60,000 I think. 8,000 Americans, and the rest are neutrals I think.

BBC just said up to 20,000 England fans have traveled and will probably purchase tickets via the black market, so the majority will be English.

The two of the three most represented sides are playing in this game, USA have sold the second most tickets, England being third, and of course South African's have bought the most.

[AlexOC]

Bloody neutruals, dont even have a clue, just come to blow their stupid horns.

[Black_Apalachi]

to be honest i have no idea what will happen and thats what this sport is like, i mean look at the 1st two matches. how many of you predicted those results? I will admit I want USA to win because if England win, knowing the English you'll bloat about it for years.

Yeah we'd probably give it some stupid name like 'The Miracle on Grass' even if we only won by a goal

[CHA!NGANG]

BBC just said up to 20,000 England fans have traveled and will probably purchase tickets via the black market, so the majority will be English.

The two of the three most represented sides are playing in this game, USA have sold the second most tickets, England being third, and of course South African's have bought the most.

ITV said that 6,000 in the stadium, upto 12,000 supporting England around the area. Which one is right :o!

I don't think there's anywhere near 20,000 spare seats. Most will be taken by now by neutrals/Americans/English. There are probably a few thousand spare but I don't think 20,000. Who knows.

[Black_Apalachi]

... and of course South African's have bought the most.

They're gonna be at every bloody game with their hooters

[StefanWolves]

ITV said that 6,000 in the stadium, upto 12,000 supporting England around the area. Which one is right :o!

I don't think there's anywhere near 20,000 spare seats. Most will be taken by now by neutrals/Americans/English. There are probably a few thousand spare but I don't think 20,000. Who knows.

20,000 traveled, I'd be surprised if they weren't at least 10,000 English in the crowd inside the stadium.

[FlyingJesus]

Edit: Loads of places saying SWP starting ahead of Lennon. WHAT THE ****!!!

Yup that's the English way... put on someone older and slower for no apparent reason.


to be honest i have no idea what will happen and thats what this sport is like, i mean look at the 1st two matches. how many of you predicted those results? I will admit I want USA to win because if England win, knowing the English you'll bloat about it for years.

Well no we're kinda expecting to win so no point us going too mental about it. Besides, modesty is historically a British trait, especially compared with the US and a few other colony countries.


I don't think there's anywhere near 20,000 spare seats. Most will be taken by now by neutrals/Americans/English. There are probably a few thousand spare but I don't think 20,000. Who knows.

Yeeee but think of all the American and English fans out there who'll overpay the neutrals massively for a game like this and get themselves tickets.


They're gonna be at every bloody game with their hooters

I hope so!

[Oleh]

Them horn things are the most annoying part, if its on bbc there may be commentary options so i dont have to listen to it. They dont stop either its just constant humming

[Black_Apalachi]

I hope so!

That best be sarcasm

[FlyingJesus]

No I think they're hilarious. SA fans are probably the best I've seen yet they were like mobbing the reporters and carrying them around like a crowdsurf last night

[Black_Apalachi]

They're funny to watch but they're a piss take to listen to while you're trying to concentrate on a footy match. Hope the yanks don't geg in on the act as well

[JackBuddy]

Read an interview with Pienaar and apparently England are South Africa's second team. At least somebody likes us.

[AlexOC]

Oh testicles, tickets closed at 3pm to watch it in town! damn this!

[Mathew]

The South-African hooters remind me of the BFG's dream-blower thing in the book :P

I'm gonna be optimistic with 3-1 to England.

[Becca]

2-1 or higher for England.
Easy.

[W00TZEH]

Green
Johnson King Terry Cole
Lennon Gerrard Lampard Milner
Heskey Rooney

[Geraint]

Howard, Cherundolo, DeMerit, Onyewu, Bocanegra, Dempsey, Bradley, Clark, Donovan, Findley, Altidore.

my hopes rest with these.

[MrPinkPanther]

We will win, know why? Our flag is better than theirs.

[W00TZEH]

GET IN THERE GERRARDDDDDDDD

[Robbie]

I wish death upon all involved at ITV HD

[Adamm]

Brilliant.

[Mathew]

I'm sick of the ITV Ad breaks.. haha.

USA scored, 1 all. What's he playing at? it rolled in!

[MrGazet]

OH NOES
USA scored :(

[Jam]

Get Joe Hart in for christ sake.

[kk.]

We will win, know why? Our flag is better than theirs.

Really? I much prefer Americas flag to the english one lol. But I think I prefer the GB one :P

[Niall!]

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

COME ON

[MrPinkPanther]

Really? I much prefer Americas flag to the english one lol. But I think I prefer the GB one :P
Its red white and blue, it wants to be the British flag but it fails. The English flag is simply minimalistic ;D

[crazed]

Very unlucky mistake by Green then. Predictions for FT?

2-1 USA

OR

2-1 England.

I think.

[Gibs960]

I feel sorry for Green, he might not be played that much in this tournament. We've played well though, we need to keep possession and make the most of chances, I still don't go back on what I said about Lennon - he shouldn't have been picked for the England team, I don't think he's international standard.
FT Score?
England: (2-3) USA: (1-2)
I think if Gerrard can keep his cool and play just as well as he has been I think he can score another, Rooney hasn't really had as many touches of the ball as he'd like, he's been setting up chances, that England have after all, wasted. Green is a good goalie, I hope he plays next half to prove to the world that he is a good keeper, hopefully he'll be played. England shouldn't put their hopes down because of one mistake, every footballer makes mistakes - even the best of players! They've played well! Good luck to them :)

[AlexOC]

green you ******* useless ******

[Adamm]

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

COME ON
sour or what

[Oleh]

wheres seaman when you need him

[lTraditional]

1-1 at the moment - hoping England gets another goal!

[:LUFC:]

2-2 .

[brandon]

Still love you Greeno

[lTraditional]

2-2 .

It is 1-1 still.

[Matthew]

I feel sorry for Green, he might not be played that much in this tournament. We've played well though, we need to keep possession and make the most of chances, I still don't go back on what I said about Lennon - he shouldn't have been picked for the England team, I don't think he's international standard.
FT Score?
England: (2-3) USA: (1-2)
I think if Gerrard can keep his cool and play just as well as he has been I think he can score another, Rooney hasn't really had as many touches of the ball as he'd like, he's been setting up chances, that England have after all, wasted. Green is a good goalie, I hope he plays next half to prove to the world that he is a good keeper, hopefully he'll be played. England shouldn't put their hopes down because of one mistake, every footballer makes mistakes - even the best of players! They've played well! Good luck to them :)
cba to read all of that so i flicked to the end (bold)

thats kinda wrong... this is the world cup, regardless of your comment they shouldnt be making basic errors like green's... mistakes such as getting sent off badly or errors like greens just shouldnt happen at this level. hope he gets locked away, give hart a go.

[kk.]

Great one right at him..

[lTraditional]

We are being serious while this is the World Cup and if we loose then we have a good chance of being out of the World Cup.

[Matthew]

We are being serious while this is the World Cup and if we loose then we have a good chance of being out of the World Cup.
yeh agreed.
even if we qualify 2nd, then well still be playing a team which qualified 1st... so a bad chance of going through.
**** green :l

[ihatehash]

it will suck if it stays as a draw.

[lTraditional]

And it has finished as a draw..

[ihatehash]

damn it 1-1 full time

[Matthew]

whole of england hates green now

[AlexOC]

feel so pissed atm. oh well, lets go trash algeria and slovenia

[kk.]

whole of england hates green now

Meh I don't. Like the commentators said, USA are quite a good squad now, and if he'd have saved that, the whole game wouldve panned out differently and it may have been worse than a draw

[Oleh]

As i said, 4-0 or we wont win the cup.

[Phil]

no england is going to lose 1-0 to usaaaaaaa

its blatent england are crap anyway

USA are definately the worse team of the two and i'm not bias because I support neither teams. I lol'd when USA scored :L

[CHA!NGANG]

I suppose it's good that Green got that mistake out of the way. We would have had at least 1 big GK blunder this WC, so hopefully that will be the last one.

[Arron]

Green made an error, it happens in football! If you 'hate' him, then you may aswell support Scotland in the WC, because that isn't being a supporter, is it?
He made a great save in the second half though, which took it onto the post.

[CHA!NGANG]

No-one really hates him. It's just the frustration but it will die down soon. Hart should be in goal though, said it from the beggining. He has confidence from his season and he's more consistant I recon.

[AlexOC]

Joe Hart. ENOUGH SAID.

[luce]

two people in the whole of England love rob green. Joe hart and David James.

[Geraint]

two people in the whole of England love rob green. Joe hart and David James.

and me and most of wales, scotland, ireland and other countries.

[AlexOC]

and me and most of wales, scotland, ireland and other countries.

SHE SAID IN ENGLAND OK

[Geraint]

SHE SAID IN ENGLAND OK

joe hart and david james aren't in england though are they? how about all welsh, scottish, irsh and other nationalities living in England. better?

[AlexOC]

joe hart and david james aren't in england though are they? how about all welsh, scottish, irsh and other nationalities living in England. better?

touché Geraint touché

[FlyingJesus]

I still don't go back on what I said about Lennon - he shouldn't have been picked for the England team, I don't think he's international standard.

Did you not watch the game?!


No-one really hates him. It's just the frustration but it will die down soon. Hart should be in goal though, said it from the beggining. He has confidence from his season and he's more consistant I recon.

This 100%, always preferred Hart anyway (he's better looking) and although you can't "hate" Green for that mistake it isn't something we want hanging over us when we play other games that ought to be easy.

I'd say someone go out and shoot Green, but he'd only deflect it behind him so no point really.


and me and most of wales, scotland, ireland and other countries.

Is there actually a reason that the rest of the British Isles doesn't like the England football team or is it just a hobby because you lot don't have one to support?

[alexxxxx]

I wish death upon all involved at ITV HD

more than a million other people agree with you. what a bloody joke.

[Jam]

Did you not watch the game?!

Lennon refused to take anyone on and did absolutely nothing along with SWP.

[FlyingJesus]

That must be apart from his in-box runs yeah

[CHA!NGANG]

Lennon did ok, but he wasn't anything special. He put in a few good crosses, and he made a few good runs but both him and SWP messed up two extreamly good chances.

[Adamm]

Lennon refused to take anyone on and did absolutely nothing along with SWP.
Apart from Robert Green, Lennon was the best player on the field by a fair way.

[Geraint]

touché Geraint touché

it did actually say the world when i quoted it.


Is there actually a reason that the rest of the British Isles doesn't like the England football team or is it just a hobby because you lot don't have one to support?

why should I? I'm Welsh. I support Cardiff and dislike Swansea as they are rivals. I doubt England would support the rest of us if it was the other way round. 3 weeks ago, most wanted Blackpool to win because they didn't want someone Welsh in "their" league. The way it's portrayed by the media gets on alot of people's nerves too.

[CHA!NGANG]

Personally, if England didn't make the finals, I'd probably route for Wales and Ireland a fair bit. Scotland maybe less so.

[StefanWolves]

Why are people bashing England? we by far out played a team that beat Spain 2-0, and a team that nearly beat Brazil and were leading them by 2-0 in a major final, if it weren't for Green we would have comfortable won this game. Yes, it may say they had 12 shots to OUR 18, but just think of how many of their shots were from more than 20 yards +.

The only time I really remember the USA troubling us is when Altidore (i think it was) missed a glancing header, and when they hit the bar. (which was a good save i'll give him that)

We should not be embarrassed about a side like the USA, they beat Spain and nearly beat Brazil, and we would have won if it weren't for some terrible goalkeeping.

I was impressed with how England performed today, and if we didn't have Green in goal today and if we had taken our chances we would have won comfortably, yes there is work to be done on our team but I'd rather we play like this now and then peak at a later time in the competition, and we should still fly through this group as leaders.

On a side note; Heskey was immense today, seriously, and should have had a goal himself.

Anyone else agree?

[Arron]

Why are people bashing England? we by far out played a team that beat Spain 2-0, and a team that nearly beat Brazil and were leading them by 2-0 in a major fail, if it weren't for Green we would have comfortable won this game. Yes, it may say they had 12 shots to OUR 18, but just think of how many of their shots were from more than 20 yards +.

The only time I really remember the USA troubling us is when Altidore (i think it was) missed a glancing header, and when they hit the bar. (which was a good save i'll give him that)

We should not be embarrassed about a side like the USA, they beat Spain and nearly beat Brazil, and we would have won if it weren't for some terrible goalkeeping.

I was impressed with how England performed today, and if we didn't have Green in goal today we would have won comfortable, and we should still fly through this group as leaders.

Anyone else agree?

onehundredpercent

[CHA!NGANG]

Who bashed England? :P

Wasn't a bad result. What is annoying is that we should have won. Heskey, SWP and Lennon all messed up really big chances, and obviously there goal was a bit of luck but both teams played well although some of the English players were disappointing, and Rooney was one of them if I'm honest. He came to life later on but that was it.

[StefanWolves]

No doubt the media will be :P and yeah Rooney needs to find his feet, and quick.

[CJW93]

Can't say I'm pleased but it's not as if we lost, we will go through

[AlexOC]

Shoulda brought r' adam

[Geraint]

isn't it funny how you seem to think the media bash england whereas from my point of view all they do is **** over them. everytime rooney touches the ball andy townsend ****.

[CHA!NGANG]

Shoulda brought r' adam

Did you see the program after the game? Johnson was sooo dry. Katy Perry made up for it though with her stunningness if that's a word.

And when England play well, the media go crazy over it, when anything goes wrong, even if it's small, the media will blow it up. It's stupid really.

[StefanWolves]

isn't it funny how you seem to think the media bash england whereas from my point of view all they do is **** over them. everytime rooney touches the ball andy townsend ****.

because you view is just as unbias as ours :P

[Mexel]

Theres only one, Joe Hart.

[Anarchist]

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[Sameer!]

we better win friday's game

[::Art::]

C'mon Rob Green XD

[ihatehash]

in all fairness I think although its a tie England is going to do very well. England was fair superior (they were in the last 40 minutes i watched) and they were very unlucky to draw. I think if they keep up the form (and replace the goal keeper) they can at least get to the semi finals.

[JackBuddy]

England weren't bad as half of the people made out. We weren't great but weren't bad. Too many people underestimated America. We were unlucky that one of their two shots on target was ****** up by Green (who I feel sorry for). The only criticism was leaving Joe Cole on the bench. I get bored of watching Wright-Philips run into defenders. The USA had a fairly good game but weren't much of a threat going forward- I'm confident we can win against Slovenia and Algeria and score more against them than the USA and finish top of the group.

Johnson needs to sort himself out a bit too. One of our biggest threats going forward yesterday was Lennon, he thrives on receiving the ball early and running at defenders but Johnson somehow felt the need to bomb forward at every opportunity. Although he didn't get caught short, I lost count of the amount of times the USA were on the counter-attack and Johnson at the half way line.

Heskey had a very good game I thought too.

ITV are ****.

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Lennon refused to take anyone on and did absolutely nothing along with SWP.

The USA obviously highlighted him as a threat because whenever he had the ball the midfielder and defender on his side always seemed to be marking him very closely. That's probably why he was moved to the left.

[StefanWolves]

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[Bun]

Johnson needs to sort himself out a bit too. One of our biggest threats going forward yesterday was Lennon


this is a joke yes? johnson, gerrard and lampard were by far our best players? lennon was decent but his final product was embarrasing.

[StefanWolves]

Johnson, Cole, Gerrard and HESKEY were our best players.

The media somehow forget that Heskey setup the goal.

[Bun]

Johnson, Cole, Gerrard and HESKEY were our best players.

The media somehow forget that Heskey setup the goal.

even i admit heskey was decent but the fact he missed that bloody opportunity knocks his performance down a notch :@
cole was alright

[CHA!NGANG]

England weren't bad as half of the people made out. We weren't great but weren't bad. Too many people underestimated America. We were unlucky that one of their two shots on target was ****** up by Green (who I feel sorry for). The only criticism was leaving Joe Cole on the bench. I get bored of watching Wright-Philips run into defenders. The USA had a fairly good game but weren't much of a threat going forward- I'm confident we can win against Slovenia and Algeria and score more against them than the USA and finish top of the group.

Johnson needs to sort himself out a bit too. One of our biggest threats going forward yesterday was Lennon, he thrives on receiving the ball early and running at defenders but Johnson somehow felt the need to bomb forward at every opportunity. Although he didn't get caught short, I lost count of the amount of times the USA were on the counter-attack and Johnson at the half way line.

Heskey had a very good game I thought too.

ITV are ****.

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The USA obviously highlighted him as a threat because whenever he had the ball the midfielder and defender on his side always seemed to be marking him very closely. That's probably why he was moved to the left.

Johnson played very very well. And he was probably told to go forward. A. Cole was told not to, as Donovan was on his side and Donovan would have taken advantage, but Johnson knew he could get away with going forward a lot and he did so very well.

The good players were Johnson, Terry, Gerrard and Heskey imo. Cole did his job fine but didn't stand out although he wasn't bad either. Same goes for Lampard imo.

[StefanWolves]

even i admit heskey was decent but the fact he missed that bloody opportunity knocks his performance down a notch :@
cole was alright
yeah i agree, if only he could finish he'd be a good striker.

[Browney]

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[WHOAH THERE TIGER. :O

[StefanWolves]

i though't i'd got away with that, i'll be punished now :P

[CHA!NGANG]

I would actually like to see in a friendly:


Hart
Johnson - Ferdinand - Terry - Cole
Barry
Lampard - Gerrard
Rooney
Heskey - Crouch


I know it wouldn't really ever work but I'd love to see what would happen.

[W00TZEH]

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6452/93912431.jpg

[Bun]

lmao please don't tell me that's real

[W00TZEH]

http://newyorkpost.com/

[StefanWolves]

oh my, they even refer to us as the british.

BRITAIN AND ENGLAND ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS FOR GODS SAKES

[Niall!]

sour or what

What's that supposed to mean? I dislike England on principle.

Also;

Problem, England?

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5198/1276388251313.gif (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/1276388251313.gif/)

[StefanWolves]

Omg read the article on http://newyorkpost.com/

Rofl'in

@Above;
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6452/93912431.jpg

that article is so full of mistakes even i record edit better, americans are dumb - enough said

[Bun]

http://newyorkpost.com/p/news/local/it_cheeri_yo_ZnXMvwkaisNdboMtCjxy1J

CRINGE

[CHA!NGANG]

oh my, they even refer to us as the british.

BRITAIN AND ENGLAND ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS FOR GODS SAKES

Having a discussion about that on another forum. It's stupid. Also how can you win from a 1-1 draw? Stupid.

[StefanWolves]

Having a discussion about that on another forum. It's stupid. Also how can you win from a 1-1 draw? Stupid.

Yanks live in their own little world TBH.

I've just e-mailed that picture to Sky Sports News, hopefully they'll mock it LOL.

[CHA!NGANG]

Is anyone going to score from a free kick in this WC?

[Neversoft]

Bloody yanks.

[Black_Apalachi]

Capello would be an idiot to drop Green from his starting XI now. Out of the whole squad he's the least likely to make a big mistake like that from now on. Once you've done it once you don't do it again - I'm just glad we got it out of the way so early on.

Where have all you Heskey bashers gone to? Come out from your holes you miserable cowards

Johnson --> Heskey --> Gerrard --> GOAL!

[2uettottanta]

oh my, they even refer to us as the british.

BRITAIN AND ENGLAND ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS FOR GODS SAKES


This reminds me of something I heard on a BBC weather forecast many months ago, the weatherman actually said "Outbreaks of rain all around Scotland, Wales and the UK (pointing to England)."

[FlyingJesus]

why should I? I'm Welsh. I support Cardiff and dislike Swansea as they are rivals. I doubt England would support the rest of us if it was the other way round.

Oh I'm by no means suggesting that the Welsh/Scots/Irish (lol Irish) should support England, I just think it's stupid that they seem to want anyone but us to win, even the French ;|


On a side note; Heskey was immense today, seriously, and should have had a goal himself.

100% I fully believe he was better yesterday than I've ever seen him since his "prime" (not that he particularly had one), really proved himself.


Johnson needs to sort himself out a bit too. One of our biggest threats going forward yesterday was Lennon, he thrives on receiving the ball early and running at defenders but Johnson somehow felt the need to bomb forward at every opportunity.

Which England game were you watching? Johnson and Lennon were playing fantastic football together, especially first half.


I would actually like to see in a friendly:


Hart
Johnson - Ferdinand - Terry - Cole
Barry
Lampard - Gerrard
Rooney
Heskey - Crouch



I know it wouldn't really ever work but I'd love to see what would happen.




My top England team:


Beckham
Campbell - Beckenbauer - Le Saux
Lampard
Lennon - Guti - Gerrard - Me
Heskey - Zola


What's that supposed to mean? I dislike England on principle.

You're French you don't get an opinion


Having a discussion about that on another forum. It's stupid. Also how can you win from a 1-1 draw? Stupid.

Technically we won the 1-1 draw because we're top of the group... alpha order ftw

[JackBuddy]

Johnson played very very well. And he was probably told to go forward. A. Cole was told not to, as Donovan was on his side and Donovan would have taken advantage, but Johnson knew he could get away with going forward a lot and he did so very well.

The good players were Johnson, Terry, Gerrard and Heskey imo. Cole did his job fine but didn't stand out although he wasn't bad either. Same goes for Lampard imo.


this is a joke yes? johnson, gerrard and lampard were by far our best players? lennon was decent but his final product was embarrasing.

He played well but his willingness to go as far forward up the pitch as possible every time faded Lennon out of the game. Lennons final product wasn't that bad- there were a couple of dangerous balls which went straight through the defence and most of his crosses won us corners. Whenever he did finally receive the ball he was already cornered by two oppostition players and it was too late. Lennon thrives when he receives the ball early and runs into space. If Carragher was playing at right back we would have seen a completely different player. Lennon's pace (his main asset) can't be utilised if he has no space to run into.

Not just saying this because he plays for Spurs, if it was Walcott I'd still be saying the same.

[5,5]

Lol, England tied with USA. The vast majority of Americans dont give a **** about soccer, and England, where the vast majority loves soccer, and you guys could only tie us. I laugh at that.

[Adamm]

Lol, England tied with USA. The vast majority of Americans dont give a **** about soccer, and England, where the vast majority loves soccer, and you guys could only tie us. I laugh at that.
what is soccer

[5,5]

what is soccer

Idk, I think its like kickball for ******s.

[Adamm]

much better than hand egg

[5,5]

dunno what that is.

edit: you must mean american football, a real contact sport where people actually hit each other and dont just kick a ball back and forth for an hour and a half.

[Adamm]

no i mean hand egg.

you play with an egg and use ur hands

[5,5]

oh well stay on topic and stop getting side tracked with your add.

[Geraint]

we play rugby over here and dont use padding.

[5,5]

we play rugby over here and dont use padding.

Cool bro, we play rugby here too..?
Im just glad that were just as good as you guys in the sport you guys care about 100000x more than us.

[W00TZEH]

dunno what that is.

edit: you must mean american football, a real contact sport where people actually hit each other and dont just kick a ball back and forth for an hour and a half.
real contact sport haha *snigger* whats with all the padding you use?

[5,5]

real contact sport haha *snigger* whats with all the padding you use?

Still wayyyyy more hitting than in soccer? And without padding all of the lineman would be braindead after like 2 games?

[Adamm]

Still wayyyyy more hitting than in soccer? And without padding all of the lineman would be braindead after like 2 games?
ur game lasts 2 seconds though

[5,5]

football games are 60 mins..

[Geraint]

players get hit in rugby and still survive. by the way, i'm not english.

[5,5]

not as hard or as often though. offensive/defensive lineman go head to head hitting each other every single play of the game in football. me neither.

[Hecktix]

Back to the England game yeh?

[Adamm]

Back to the England game yeh?
what with usa?

[5,5]

what with usa?

Yeah how were just as good as you guys at a game we dont give two ***** about.

[Adamm]

bet you couldn't even name your starting xi without looking through the internet.

what happened with slovenia bbs?

[Hecktix]

Wrong thread then :P

But still, back to the England USA game pls.

[W00TZEH]

Yeah how were just as good as you guys at a game we dont give two ***** about.
Yeh because games depend upon what the people of your country think about the game... your players cared about it and that's all that matters.

Football games are 90 mins btw.

[FlyingJesus]

Still wayyyyy more hitting than in soccer? And without padding all of the lineman would be braindead after like 2 games?

Are you really suggesting that American football is somehow MORE of a sport because there's a slightly bigger chance of injury?

[5,5]

Yeah youre right, I couldnt name anyone but Landon Donavon, becuase I'm american and dont care about soccer.

I know they 90 minutes I was saying american football games are 60..

I'm not saying its more of a sport I'm saying its a better sport.

[Adamm]

like 3 billion people would disagree

[5,5]

Disagree with what.

[CHA!NGANG]

Yeah youre right, I couldnt name anyone but Landon Donavon, becuase I'm american and dont care about soccer.

I know they 90 minutes I was saying american football games are 60..

I'm not saying its more of a sport I'm saying its a better sport.

It's a better sport? The whole world players 'soccer'. Basically only America play your 'Football'. There's a reason for that. Our football is a world sport and is very good to watch when you get a good game.

If you don't watch soccer then don't comment as you have no idea what you're on about.

[StefanWolves]

Their 'football' should be called 'HandEgg' TBH. Either that or 'This is Rugby but were puffs and wear pads'.

[Black_Apalachi]

Yeah youre right, I couldnt name anyone but Landon Donavon, becuase I'm american and dont care about soccer. ...

Considering there are more Americans over in South Africa than anyone other supporters that doesn't make sense


... I'm not saying its more of a sport I'm saying its a better sport.

Is that why football has took off all round the world and is the most popular sport in the world while American football, well.. isn't? :S

[5,5]

Considering there are more Americans over in South Africa than anyone other supporters that doesn't make sense



Is that why football has took off all round the world and is the most popular sport in the world while American football, well.. isn't? :S

That just shows we have money lol.

And those saying that soccer is more popular around the world, yeah thats true, cant fight the facts. BUT, how come whenever the NFL has one game over in England, the place is packed and sold out.. hmmm maybe because its a good sport.

ALL I'm saying, is that you guys play the sport way more, and care about it way more, and we're JUST as good as you guys at it. Kinda sad tbh.

[FlyingJesus]

We got 50million to choose from compared to 307million, I'd say we're not doing too bad. I'll concede that England have played horrifically this World Cup so far (at least next to what we know our players can do) but that seems to be a problem with them working together as the team they've got - it's pretty basic to see that we actually have far better players by looking at the teams they play for. You admit that you don't watch football, so how you can formulate any sort of opinion other than by looking at the scorelines of the games played so far this tournament is beyond me.

You also seem to be forgetting that the US players are still professional footballers - I highly doubt that they care less or play less than the England team. A larger following doesn't have any impact on a player's skills lol.

On the NFL point, you said it well enough yourself: one game.

[Blinger$]

That just shows we have money lol.

And those saying that soccer is more popular around the world, yeah thats true, cant fight the facts. BUT, how come whenever the NFL has one game over in England, the place is packed and sold out.. hmmm maybe because its a good sport.

ALL I'm saying, is that you guys play the sport way more, and care about it way more, and we're JUST as good as you guys at it. Kinda sad tbh.
I know, it is what they are popular for in sports. Everyone has heard of the premier league, or know at least one team (man u, arsenal, liverpool, chelsea etc).. They seem to get a bit touchy when they lose in a soccer game tbh. or very defensive anywa

[FlyingJesus]

Nah we're the first to insult our own team lol we love losing it gives us something to complain about. Shame we haven't actually lost yet in this World Cup but who knows maybe we'll get a chance to have a proper cry after Slovenia

[CHA!NGANG]

So after 1 game drawing with us, you think you're just as good as us at football? Right... again you have no clue at all.

As for your point about NFL, there are more than 80,000 NFL fans in England yes probably, and as they come once every few months/year then it's bound to be popular for that one game. Jesus, all of your points are really stupid.

[Browney]

That just shows we have money lol.

And those saying that soccer is more popular around the world, yeah thats true, cant fight the facts. BUT, how come whenever the NFL has one game over in England, the place is packed and sold out.. hmmm maybe because its a good sport.

ALL I'm saying, is that you guys play the sport way more, and care about it way more, and we're JUST as good as you guys at it. Kinda sad tbh.

LMAO EHEHEHEHEHE

[-Heart]

That just shows we have money lol.

And those saying that soccer is more popular around the world, yeah thats true, cant fight the facts. BUT, how come whenever the NFL has one game over in England, the place is packed and sold out.. hmmm maybe because its a good sport.

ALL I'm saying, is that you guys play the sport way more, and care about it way more, and we're JUST as good as you guys at it. Kinda sad tbh.
You need professional help if you think that's true.

I know, it is what they are popular for in sports. Everyone has heard of the premier league, or know at least one team (man u, arsenal, liverpool, chelsea etc).. They seem to get a bit touchy when they lose in a soccer game tbh. or very defensive anywa
You mean England?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but we haven't actually LOST yet.

[Bun]

back off with your gridiron crap

[Black_Apalachi]

That just shows we have money lol.

And those saying that soccer is more popular around the world, yeah thats true, cant fight the facts. BUT, how come whenever the NFL has one game over in England, the place is packed and sold out.. hmmm maybe because its a good sport.

ALL I'm saying, is that you guys play the sport way more, and care about it way more, and we're JUST as good as you guys at it. Kinda sad tbh.

No... it shows the US has a much higher population and there is obviously more of a following than you realise. Your claim that NFL is superior to football is based on the fact one match a year in the UK sells out? May I divert your attention to Anfield, The Emirates, Old Trafford and every other Premier League stadium. These places sell out week after week for a whole season. As for playing more than you, that is quite frankly just an embarrassing statement. There are football leagues in America you know? And even some of your squad are Premier League players. Everyone trains as much as the next team when it comes to the World Cup my friend.


We got 50million to choose from compared to 307million, I'd say we're not doing too bad. I'll concede that England have played horrifically this World Cup so far (at least next to what we know our players can do) but that seems to be a problem with them working together as the team they've got - it's pretty basic to see that we actually have far better players by looking at the teams they play for. You admit that you don't watch football, so how you can formulate any sort of opinion other than by looking at the scorelines of the games played so far this tournament is beyond me.

You also seem to be forgetting that the US players are still professional footballers - I highly doubt that they care less or play less than the England team. A larger following doesn't have any impact on a player's skills lol.

On the NFL point, you said it well enough yourself: one game.

This. By definition the USA should have a vastly superior side than England purely because you have millions upon millions of people to select your 23 players from. Yet you can't even get more than a draw when we are far from on form and even then back home you believe you have actually *won* the game and act as if you've won the bloody World Cup! It's actually embarrassing.

[5,5]

Uhm, all of you that think im crazy for thinking that USA is just as good as England, if were not, than how did we TIE you guys. A tie. 1-1 final score. Both teams have the same amount. Numbers dont lie, if youre as good as you think you are than you would've beat us, but you tied. We're equal. Just as good.

[Special]

guess what i watched last night football match lol yep i acctually did sorry if this is kinda off topic but i needed to share this news

[CHA!NGANG]

Uhm, all of you that think im crazy for thinking that USA is just as good as England, if were not, than how did we TIE you guys. A tie. 1-1 final score. Both teams have the same amount. Numbers dont lie, if youre as good as you think you are than you would've beat us, but you tied. We're equal. Just as good.

Oh wow seriously? Do you know nothing about football? You DREW 1-1, although according to your papers USA won 1-1...

You got lucky, we missed great chances, and we should have beaten you. You clearly have no idea about football so why don't you just stop winding people up. If you knew about Football, you'd be able to see one game means absolutely nothing. You aren't equal, you never have been and you won't be for a long long time and you aren't as good.

Any American that knows anything about football would say the same thing. Problem is, you don't have a clue.

[5,5]

Oh wow seriously? Do you know nothing about football? You DREW 1-1, although according to your papers USA won 1-1...

You got lucky, we missed great chances, and we should have beaten you. You clearly have no idea about football so why don't you just stop winding people up. If you knew about Football, you'd be able to see one game means absolutely nothing. You aren't equal, you never have been and you won't be for a long long time and you aren't as good.

Any American that knows anything about football would say the same thing. Problem is, you don't have a clue.

I have general knowledge of soccer, and I have an advantage over you, I learned simple math, and I know that 1 and 1 are equal. Number don't lie so stop thinking youre better when you just tied.

[CHA!NGANG]

I have general knowledge of soccer, and I have an advantage over you, I learned simple math, and I know that 1 and 1 are equal. Number don't lie so stop thinking youre better when you just tied.

Right.. again from that post you have no clue. 1 game doesn't determine anything. Switzerland beat Spain. Does that mean that Switzerland are a better team than Spain? No. Although judging from your football knowledge, you'd probably say that they are.

[FlyingJesus]

Spain lost to Switzerland, but by no means are a worse team. Germany lost to Serbia, same applies. France to Mexico... you get my drift (or at least I'd hope so) - one result does not decide who the greater team is overall. In that particular game, yes we were tied for who was able to score the goals that matter, but that's really a reflection of how poorly the England team played on the night rather than total cumulative skill and ability. Do you really think football is just a game of stats whereby if two teams draw they must be exact equals?

[5,5]

Right.. again from that post you have no clue. 1 game doesn't determine anything. Switzerland beat Spain. Does that mean that Switzerland are a better team than Spain? No. Although judging from your football knowledge, you'd probably say that they are.

Well they were a better team for that 90 minutes, so that shows theyre a pretty good team. Good teams should be consistent and able to play to the best of their ability for 90 minutes every math. For the England USA game, they both played to the same ability for 90 minutes, resulting in a tie, so they are equal. We are equal teams. Get over it. You cant beat us.

[CHA!NGANG]

Well they were a better team for that 90 minutes, so that shows theyre a pretty good team. Good teams should be consistent and able to play to the best of their ability for 90 minutes every math. For the England USA game, they both played to the same ability for 90 minutes, resulting in a tie, so they are equal. We are equal teams. Get over it. You cant beat us.

Oh be quiet please. You clearly have no clue whatsoever and you've even admitted you don't watch football.

Equal teams? It's one game, get over yourselves. We can't beat you? We've done it in the past and we'll do it again. In fact, you can't beat us. The USA aren't even close to England when it comes to Football. Again you clearly have no idea. Not worth even talking to you.

[5,5]

Oh be quiet please. You clearly have no clue whatsoever and you've even admitted you don't watch football.

Equal teams? It's one game, get over yourselves. We can't beat you? We've done it in the past and we'll do it again. In fact, you can't beat us. The USA aren't even close to England when it comes to Football. Again you clearly have no idea. Not worth even talking to you.

If we aren't even close to beating you.. than how did we tie?.. CLEARLY you aren't as good as you make yourselves out to be if you could only TIE with a team who you think is sooo below you. I think youre the ****** here, and you need to get over youself and realize that numbers dont lie. 1-1 = tie = just as good. Not that hard to understand.

[CHA!NGANG]

If we aren't even close to beating you.. than how did we tie?.. CLEARLY you aren't as good as you make yourselves out to be if you could only TIE with a team who you think is sooo below you. I think youre the ****** here, and you need to get over youself and realize that numbers dont lie. 1-1 = tie = just as good. Not that hard to understand.

Seriously, your making yourself sound like an idiot to anyone that knows about football. 1 game doesn't mean your better or even equal to England. God you're annoying. Just leave if you don't know what you're on about.

[5,5]

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[cocaine]

Uhm, all of you that think im crazy for thinking that USA is just as good as England, if were not, than how did we TIE you guys. A tie. 1-1 final score. Both teams have the same amount. Numbers dont lie, if youre as good as you think you are than you would've beat us, but you tied. We're equal. Just as good.

because you only scored, thus drew and thus didn't lose because of an englishmans mistake in goal

[CHA!NGANG]

So if you guys are better, than why couldnt you guys beat us? Thats ALL I've been trying to say this whole time, maybe youre too ******* dumb and british to realize that.

Too dumb and British to realise that? First of all, England drew with the USA. Not the whole of Britain, so maybe you should listen in Geography next time mate.

Also, we couldn't beat you as our keeper let in basically an own goal, and we missed 3 one-on-ones. We had an off day. We were still the better side, and anyone watching the game could see that.

Football goes that way, sometimes the bigger teams don't beat the lesser teams, e/g Germany and Spain earlier on, but doesn't mean the smaller team is better/equal. If you watched football you'd know that, instead of coming on here and acting like a **** thinking you know everything when you know nothing.

[5,5]

Too dumb and British to realise that? First of all, England drew with the USA. Not the whole of Britain, so maybe you should listen in Geography next time mate.

Also, we couldn't beat you as our keeper let in basically an own goal, and we missed 3 one-on-ones. We had an off day. We were still the better side, and anyone watching the game could see that.

Football goes that way, sometimes the bigger teams don't beat the lesser teams, e/g Germany and Spain earlier on, but doesn't mean the smaller team is better/equal. If you watched football you'd know that, instead of coming on here and acting like a **** thinking you know everything when you know nothing.

I was calling you british, not the england team?..
And if you guys were just having an off day than what happened with Algeria?
Basically, you guys are ******. Give up.

[Geraint]

You see teams in basketball beat the Lakers. Doesn't mean they're better than them.

[5,5]

You see teams in basketball beat the Lakers. Doesn't mean they're better than them.

Yeah but it means theyre the better team for that 48 minute game.
Just like how I said the USA and England were equal for that 90 minute game.

[CHA!NGANG]

Yeah but it means theyre the better team for that 48 minute game.
Just like how I said the USA and England were equal for that 90 minute game.

You never said that once. You said that the USA and England were equal when it comes to football in general.

For that 90 mins, you could say they were equal yes, even then England were the better side, but if you were arguing that then I would see your point. But you weren't. You were saying that they are equal in general.

[cocaine]

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[5,5]

You never said that once. You said that the USA and England were equal when it comes to football in general.

For that 90 mins, you could say they were equal yes, even then England were the better side, but if you were arguing that then I would see your point. But you weren't. You were saying that they are equal in general.

I thought you would be smart enough to know that if I said we were equal over and over again than thats waht I meant. But I do think that we are equal in general, if one team were any better, than one wouldve won the game.

And cocaine, *REMOVED*, I'm sure im smarter than you'll ever be, seeing how based off of your name, I assume youre dumb enough to do cocaine..

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[cocaine]

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on topic: i think although england aren't playing as well as they should be, international pressure on them is huge; as someone said they are expected to do well. but they are professionals and should be able to deal with it..


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[5,5]

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Well, every single person alive makes assumptions, and that right there is an assumption. That could be a big word, sorry, look it up.

[cocaine]

Well, every single person alive makes assumptions, and that right there is an assumption. That could be a big word, sorry, look it up.

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[5,5]

are you seriously trying to patronise me after you made that embarrassing post earlier? if you had an IQ of 100 > then you'd have realised its incredibly poor, not to mention stupid, to use assumptions as the main point (or lack of, if you could possibly call that collection of words a 'point') in your argument

can we please get back on topic on how ****** youre countrys soccer team is.

[cocaine]

can we please get back on topic on how ****** youre countrys soccer team is.

http://www.soccerstat.net/h2h.jsp?gameID=D8E3DF440000011A1DED6BD629253C18

look at the top three results under "head to head"
it appears we've beaten you two times out of three, and drawn once. and indeed all the other stats are in englands favour.
now whos team is the **** team?

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[5,5]

If were so ****** why didnt you beat us?

[W00TZEH]

my god you don't understand fotoball, now juts shut up because you're just repeating yourself now.

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[CHA!NGANG]

Relax lads. No point getting frustrated over someone who clearly has no clue. Let the American think what he wants to think. Afterall, they 'won 1-1' didn't they :rolleyes: