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United-Clowgon
08-07-2010, 08:44 AM
Barcelona (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-12214-fc-barcelona.do) president Sandro Rosell (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-97611-sandro-rosell.do) has revealed the extent of the financial worries at Barcelona, admitting the players' wages for last month have not been paid.


Rosell formally succeeded Joan Laporta (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-59646-joan-laporta.do) as president last week and and has already sold Dmitro Chygrynskiy to former side Shakhtar Donetsk (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-39937-fc-shakhtar-donetsk.do) for 15million euros to alleviate the club's "liquidity problems".


That move came as something of a surprise as, even though the defender had struggled for first-team football, coach Pep Guardiola (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-44113-josep-guardiola.do) had stated his intention to hold onto him.


But Rosell explained in an interview with Sport his administration were forced to act, both with that sale and by seeking further funds from banks.


"We found a club in debt, with liquidity problems," he said. "At this point we have to take a loan to pay the wages of the players.


"The squad were supposed to be paid at the end of last month and still haven't been. We'll fix a loan of 150million euros.


"The banks know that we have a business plan that will allow them to recover the money.


"The club is not bankrupt because it generates income."
However, Rosell insisted the situation was not a reason to panic.


"The members shouldn't be afraid because it is under control," he said. "We must resolve this tension.


"It can be done in two ways: to have extra income, like selling Chygrynskiy, and/or taking a loan, which is what we have done.


"The previous board had already begun this process. We followed the same path - the same banks, the same target but with a different business plan.


"They (Laporta's board) also knew they needed this credit. We hope to sign it this week."


Asked how a club with a turnover of 400million euros could be in such a predicament, Rosell said: "It has spent more than it has made."


Despite the financial situation - and the purchase of David Villa (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-43552-david-villa.do) from Valencia (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-38982-valencia-cf.do) - Rosell insists there is still as much as 89million euros to spend on new blood.


"There will be 50 million euros to sign more players," he said. "This is the case every year. This is our plan for the future.


"Technically, as of now we have 50 million plus 15 for Chygrynskiy and 24 for (Yaya) Toure. In total, 89million."


That may not be good news for Arsenal (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-1787-arsenal-fc.do) fans, who hope to see their captain, Cesc Fabregas (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-11771-cesc-fabregas.do), remain in London (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-94056-london-england.do).


With former Barca youth player Fabregas seemingly keen to return to the Nou Camp (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-39559-camp-nou.do), it has become the summer's protracted transfer saga.


However Rosell, who is due to travel to South Africa (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-307-south-africa.do) shortly, where he hopes to meet with Gunners boss Arsene Wenger (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/related-13583-arsene-wenger.do), wants the issue sorted as soon as possible.


"It's now or never," he said. "We'll do it fast. It won't be protracted.
"I'll try to see Wenger in South Africa, then we'll tell you what happens.


"We would not pay the 50-60million euros that I have read about. If Arsenal do not go crazy, he might play at Barca."


Interesting article.. they say the whole league is full in the red. And the Tv company went bankrupt and apparently they haven't received any of their tv deal money yet. (430 Mill in the red)

Barca - Unicef "ER, can we have our money now please?" :P

alexxxxx
08-07-2010, 11:56 AM
my mate told me about this but i havent seen the article. have you got a link?

oh wait, just found it. maybe fabregas won't be on his way then..

Geraint
08-07-2010, 01:22 PM
the spanish teams though are practically owned by the banks are they not?

Browney
08-07-2010, 03:19 PM
the spanish teams though are practically owned by the banks are they not?

That, or the royalty just writes debt off.

JackBuddy
08-07-2010, 05:24 PM
Spain is going to be the next European country to have financial problems as bad as Greece- banks won't be much use then.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Barca have massive cash reserves anyway though.

Eckuii
08-07-2010, 05:27 PM
Yeah but they just bought Villa for 25 million.

CHA!NGANG
08-07-2010, 05:32 PM
They haven't spent anything yet in terms of net.

Sold Toure and Chygrynskiy for around 40 Million and bought Villa for around 35.

JackBuddy
08-07-2010, 07:01 PM
They haven't spent anything yet in terms of net.

Sold Toure and Chygrynskiy for around 40 Million and bought Villa for around 35.

Still in debt though lol

CHA!NGANG
08-07-2010, 07:05 PM
Still in debt though lol

Aye I know, but was in responce to the Villa thing. Transfer wise they're the same as last year. How they're gona get Fabregas is beyond me.

JackBuddy
08-07-2010, 07:07 PM
I just can't wait for the day that Real Madrid and Barca share the TV rights equally between every club in the league instead of them getting the largest share. That will really **** them up.

Adamm
08-07-2010, 10:00 PM
No it's Real Madrid that have a bottomless pit of money due to the connections with the Spanish royal family. Barcelona, however, do not have that kind backind and only have the banks to rely on. Yes, they can prove that they will make a profit but they won't. Hardly any football clubs do because the sport has become too reliant on 'hypothetical' money. Money that isn't there, or isn't their's in otherwords. Unless something is done, from the top; by FIFA, about financial situations at football clubs then it won't be long until Accrington Stanley are in the Champions League. You think I'm kidding?

United-Clowgon
09-07-2010, 12:46 PM
Accrington Stanley to win the EUROPA CUP BY 2018!

alexxxxx
09-07-2010, 12:50 PM
I just can't wait for the day that Real Madrid and Barca share the TV rights equally between every club in the league instead of them getting the largest share. That will really **** them up.

i want the same thing to happen in the prem

CHA!NGANG
09-07-2010, 01:21 PM
It does happen in the Prem.

Adamm
09-07-2010, 08:07 PM
It does happen in the Prem.
*shakes head*

W00TZEH
09-07-2010, 08:24 PM
It does happen in the Prem.
Nooooooooooooo it doesn't the higher position you finish the more money you get.

How much debt are Manchester United's owners in?

JackBuddy
09-07-2010, 09:05 PM
TV money is split equally between Prem teams, the prize money is just a bonus.




The Premier League’s TV broadcasting deals brings in £2.7 billion over three years. Of this, £22.8 million is paid to every Premier League club as part of an equal share of revenue.



from 2007 but still.

StefanWolves
09-07-2010, 10:05 PM
Was gonna say they share TV money equally, but get bonuses for being champions, top four, etc.

alexxxxx
09-07-2010, 10:53 PM
where do you think the prize money comes from

50% is given equally, 25% is given on how much youre on UK TV, 25% is prize money. surprise surprise, the top 4 are on the most so they get the most money.

JackBuddy
09-07-2010, 11:32 PM
where do you think the prize money comes from

50% is given equally, 25% is given on how much youre on UK TV, 25% is prize money. surprise surprise, the top 4 are on the most so they get the most money.
Yes but this system is much fairer than the one in place in Spain. At least the money gained here is through the 'achievements' of the club as opposed to Spain where Real Madrid and Barcelona both can negotiate with international TV broadcasters individually. The two clubs take half of the whole league's TV revenue which gives them about 150m euros a season, which is significantly higher than any prem team...

alexxxxx
09-07-2010, 11:40 PM
Yes but this system is much fairer than the one in place in Spain. At least the money gained here is through the 'achievements' of the club as opposed to Spain where Real Madrid and Barcelona both can negotiate with international TV broadcasters individually. The two clubs take half of the whole league's TV revenue which gives them about 150m euros a season, which is significantly higher than any prem team...
true true but i read somewhere that the person who comes top in the prem with champions league and everything often gets in revenue 20 times more than the team at the bottom. no wonder no one can compete.

CHA!NGANG
09-07-2010, 11:54 PM
*shakes head*


Nooooooooooooo it doesn't the higher position you finish the more money you get.

How much debt are Manchester United's owners in?

Yes it does happen in the PL. The TV shares are equal, the higher the finish the more you get in bonus' as shown below or something like that, not quite sure. In Spain, it's completely different for every team so everyone wants to buy Barca and Madrid on their own, so they get crazy money, whilst the other teams get a lot lot less.


TV money is split equally between Prem teams, the prize money is just a bonus.



from 2007 but still.

JackBuddy
10-07-2010, 12:00 AM
true true but i read somewhere that the person who comes top in the prem with champions league and everything often gets in revenue 20 times more than the team at the bottom. no wonder no one can compete.
Not quite sure that's true. I think the season Derby got relegated United got double the amount they did when prize money is added on top of the equal share of broadcasting money. I've no objections with the highest finishing side receiving the most money.

alexxxxx
10-07-2010, 02:35 PM
Not quite sure that's true. I think the season Derby got relegated United got double the amount they did when prize money is added on top of the equal share of broadcasting money. I've no objections with the highest finishing side receiving the most money.

yeah that probably isnt true but im sure ive read some report somewhere but i still think its not done fairly enough. the top 4 are on tv every other week and therefore have way more money than those near the bottom who are rarely shown.

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