World Cup 2018 and 2022

[Mathew]

Don't think there's a thread on this yet..

Who do you think will be the hosts for the World Cup in 2018 and 2022? Being announced tomorrow at 3pm GMT :)

[Deak]

Well for the 2018, Russia are favourites with England 2nd (according to bookies) so I'm hoping that by 3pm England will be announced as hosts :)

As for the 2022 - I'm not bothered as England have pulled out for them :P

[Conservative,]

2022 I think Australia or Qatar will get it.

2018 I want England to get it, but I think Russia will.

[Arron]

2018 England World Cup would be utterly immense.

[Mathew]

Well, we go absolutely years without hosting anything major.. and then we might end up hosting both the olympics and the world cup in the space of 6 years :P Not bad!

[Conservative,]

Well, we go absolutely years without hosting anything major.. and then we might end up hosting both the olympics and the world cup in the space of 6 years :P Not bad!

Don't forget Rugby World cup in 2013 (I think), we're bidding for Common Wealth games...or Scotland at some point in that decade...it's gonna be a decade of sports.

[luce]

We should get it because there is no other league better then ours in the world and our facilities are ready to go now so there wouldn't need anything building like they did in South Africa. We also have massive footballing history unlike Russia which isn't really well known for it. The media haven't helped but if we got it they would get behind us i guess. I don't think people realize this is a once in a life time thing for this generation!

[AgnesIO]

We should get it because there is no other league better then ours in the world and our facilities are ready to go now so there wouldn't need anything building like they did in South Africa. We also have massive footballing history unlike Russia which isn't really well known for it. The media haven't helped but if we got it they would get behind us i guess. I don't think people realize this is a once in a life time thing for this generation!

I thought like hardly any of our football grounds met the requirements lol

[Conservative,]

We should get it because there is no other league better then ours in the world and our facilities are ready to go now so there wouldn't need anything building like they did in South Africa. We also have massive footballing history unlike Russia which isn't really well known for it. The media haven't helped but if we got it they would get behind us i guess. I don't think people realize this is a once in a life time thing for this generation!

We can just bid for 2026 if we don't get it...

[AgnesIO]

We can just bid for 2026 if we don't get it...

I think lucy means this generation of football players. If so, then 16 years from now and most of them will be retired. Well the entire England squad would be :P

[Conservative,]

I think lucy means this generation of football players. If so, then 16 years from now and most of them will be retired. Well the entire England squad would be :P

8 years from now most of they will be retired. (Gerrard, Lampard ect.)

[AgnesIO]

8 years from now most of they will be retired. (Gerrard, Lampard ect.)

But not all of them.

16 years is definite.

[Conservative,]

But not all of them.

16 years is definite.

The younger players may still be around...the one's coming through now who are 17/18. But yeah it's a great opportunity. Not that we have a chance of winning it.

[AgnesIO]

The younger players may still be around...the one's coming through now who are 17/18. But yeah it's a great opportunity. Not that we have a chance of winning it.

Yeah because being second doesn't give us a chance?

[Conservative,]

Yeah because being second doesn't give us a chance?

I mean the actual competition.

[AgnesIO]

I mean the actual competition.

England never have a chance lmao

[luce]

OT, COMS, Wembley, Emerites(SP), the Olympic stadium will be up by then, New Tottenham will likely be done in 8 years

That's 6 off the top of my head which will have met requirements and i'm sure one of the clubs in the midlands like Birmingham, AV or Wolves will meet them. You don't actually need that many stadiums if i remember the SA one.

Plus 16 years is a whole generation pretty much not just for footballers but for fans aswell in 8 years the england team will be looking very different (we may even be good) but i'm talking about the country as a whole.

[AgnesIO]

OT, COMS, Wembley, Emerites(SP), the Olympic stadium will be up by then, New Tottenham will likely be done in 8 years

That's 6 off the top of my head which will have met requirements and i'm sure one of the clubs in the midlands like Birmingham, AV or Wolves will meet them. You don't actually need that many stadiums if i remember the SA one.

Plus 16 years is a whole generation pretty much not just for footballers but for fans aswell in 8 years the england team will be looking very different (we may even be good) but i'm talking about the country as a whole.

Surely 80 years is a 'generation'

[StefanWolves]

England will win the race to host 2018, mark my words. :)

[luce]

where did you get the figure 80 years?

[AgnesIO]

where did you get the figure 80 years?

Average lifespan.

[Conservative,]

OT, COMS, Wembley, Emerites(SP), the Olympic stadium will be up by then, New Tottenham will likely be done in 8 years

That's 6 off the top of my head which will have met requirements and i'm sure one of the clubs in the midlands like Birmingham, AV or Wolves will meet them. You don't actually need that many stadiums if i remember the SA one.

Plus 16 years is a whole generation pretty much not just for footballers but for fans aswell in 8 years the england team will be looking very different (we may even be good) but i'm talking about the country as a whole.

Add Anfield to that list. But we were going to have a new ground..don't know if we still are.

[kuzkasate]

Really hope Russia win it.

[adum]

Why would anyone want England to host 2018, as if there isn't high expectations for a piss-poor side already, if we were to hold the competition on home soil there would be a ton of pressure and no doubt even worst results.
We're the most overrated team in the world, period.

[Oleh]

Your basing that on the fact that you have to be good to host....

South africa hosted...
Switzerland hosted...
Russia might host...

Small minded people make me sad..

[AgnesIO]

Why would anyone want England to host 2018, as if there isn't high expectations for a piss-poor side already, if we were to hold the competition on home soil there would be a ton of pressure and no doubt even worst results.
We're the most overrated team in the world, period.

England are not over rated.

They have the potential to be a fantastic team.

[mynameiswootzeh]

We should get it because there is no other league better then ours in the world and our facilities are ready to go now so there wouldn't need anything building like they did in South Africa. We also have massive footballing history unlike Russia which isn't really well known for it. The media haven't helped but if we got it they would get behind us i guess. I don't think people realize this is a once in a life time thing for this generation!
What the hell does our league have to do with hosting the world cup?

[Describe]

Sorry but I hope England don't get it. We'll never hear the end of it.

[-Heart]

Watch England and Qatar get them :L.

[StefanWolves]

I agree Haz, England will get it mark my words.

[Deak]

I reckon that England will as they've already got the stadiums in place... which means that the only thing which needs sorting is which games go where and when.

Not long to go now! C'mon England!

[ihatehash]

Remembering England is still in the bad books with Fifa after the scandal that they were willing to bribe fifa officials to vote for them, so it will be very, very close.

[Stephen]

gotta admit I love spain+portugal's holiday advertisement video

[SirTezza]

Running late.. what a surprise lol... I'm nervous, get on with it FIFA!

[Stephen]

do 2022 get announced at the same time?

[ihatehash]

maybe they have had to do several votes if there were was no outright winner for both

[iRaaave.]

C'mon england!!

[Stephen]

this guy talking is well nervous

[Alexx..]

Apparently we've gone out in the first round of voting ahaha

[ihatehash]

how would you know? its top secret one would assume.

EDIT: i have heard the same, sucks to be you guys right now.

[Stephen]

looks like we might be out lmao

[Alexx..]

APPARENTLY, not sure if it's true, sky sports news have said.

[Stephen]

everyone says now. 1st round knock-out

[SirTezza]

I heard first round knock out as well.

I'm telling ya, BBC messed this up when they showed that episode of Panorama.

[Stephen]

atleast we can blame someone!

[iRaaave.]

wow this is gay.

[Arron]

COME ON ENGLAND.

this is getting tense :)

[Stephen]

RUSSIA WTF>??>??<jUDS

[iRaaave.]

Fingers crossed.

[Arron]

2018 Fifa World Cup goes to: RUSSIA

[ihatehash]

Well done Russia

[Stephen]

I guess they were confident x1000

[dbgtz]

I'm sure when he said "motherland" he was referring to russia in that, but then thought what he was saying and said it about england LOL.
Anyway I guess it's OK, not too bad. I guess it's fair since we hosted it relatively recently.

[AgnesIO]

Typical lol

Probably a large Roman Abramovich influence.

[Geraint]

load of bollocks. fifa are corrupt as ****. be good if england told them to stick it up their arse and no-one travels and england teams pulled out of europe.

[SirTezza]

Bad decision.

I would have chosen either Spain-Portugal or England.

[Deak]

Well congrats to Russia ... :(

[Stephen]

neo-nazis will have a field day!

now im hoping usa dont get 2022

[AgnesIO]

load of bollocks. fifa are corrupt as ****. be good if england told them to stick it up their arse and no-one travels and england teams pulled out of europe.

What a ridiculous comment.

Russia shouldn't have won - their PM didn't even bother going. But as I said, Dear old Roman Abramovich probably had some nice input.

[Geraint]

it gets to the point where the only problems with england was a couple of ******* hotels. fifa'll do anything to stop england. hate sepp blatter and that french ****.

[AgnesIO]

it gets to the point where the only problems with england was a couple of ******* hotels. fifa'll do anything to stop england. hate sepp blatter and that french ****.

When you prove they fixed the vote, I will listen.

[Deak]

it gets to the point where the only problems with england was a couple of ******* hotels. fifa'll do anything to stop england. hate sepp blatter and that french ****.

I agree, we would only have to change a few things where as now Russia have 14 new stadiums to build :/

---------- Post added 02-12-2010 at 03:44 PM ----------

2022 WC goes to Qatar

[Stephen]

I really wouldn't of minded spain and portugal but russia seriously :(

well done qatar!!!

[SirTezza]

Qatar LOL

Wow... just...wow.

[ihatehash]

wooo Qatar!

[Arron]

it's like the oscars the way people are reacting :(

[dbgtz]

qatar, who are they? :S

[AgnesIO]

I wish Spain and Portugal got the 2018 one to be honest :(

[Deak]

So England 2030... as thats the next chance we've got now :(

[Stephen]

I would of gone to spain and portugal one, **** off will I ever go to russia or qatar

and sepp blatter might be dead by the 2030 announcement so it may be okay

[Arron]

i'll be like 50 when we get the World Cup, if that! :/

[SirTezza]

Well, it's a shame.

But congratulations to Russia and Qatar.

[AgnesIO]

LOL Qatar have NEVER qualified for the world cup

[iRaaave.]

Wow such a fix & england are just totally ****e at everything :/

[Stephen]

this russian guy talking now, I bet if he took his hat off he'd have a skinhead

[Geraint]

i'll be like 50 when we get the World Cup, if that! :/

England will never win the World Cup.

[Stephen]

England will never win the World Cup.

i think he means if we got it in 2030

[Arron]

England will never win the World Cup.

I mean when we host it.

Everyone knows England will never win the World Cup :)

edit:

I mean if we host it.

Everyone knows England will never win the World Cup :)

[AgnesIO]

Wow such a fix & england are just totally ****e at everything :/

Incorrect. We are excellent at closing schools after you see a few inches of snow.

Russia are rubbish at that.

[iRaaave.]

Incorrect. We are excellent at closing schools after you see a few inches of snow.

Russia are rubbish at that.
Yeah thats the only thing we are good at.

[ihatehash]

Wow, loving how you guys can take a loss. Russia was always a favorite and they deserve it. it was not fixed, Russia was just better this time.

[dbgtz]

Why would 2030 be the next chance we have, why not 2026?

[AgnesIO]

Wow, loving how you guys can take a loss. Russia was always a favorite and they deserve it. it was not fixed, Russia was just better this time.

It must suck being one of the worst teams at football in the world, mustn't it? People are angry that Russia are not much of a footballing country, and there were other people who did better - Russia's PM didn't even attend the voting thing..

[Arron]

I don't know. China, Colombia(sp), Ecuador, Peru, Mexico, Malaysia, and Indonesia have applied for 2026.

[Alexx..]

money money money, MONEYY.

[ihatehash]

It must suck being one of the worst teams at football in the world, mustn't it? People are angry that Russia are not much of a footballing country, and there were other people who did better - Russia's PM didn't even attend the voting thing..

Thanks for proving my point. Also my country has significantly grown in football this year and considering we're 50th out of 208 does not mean we are one of the worst. Also the PM might have better things to do then attend the voting, he might have had an important meeting.

[dbgtz]

taken from wiki haha (minor swearing kinda):
http://i55.tinypic.com/2cr4yg9.png

[Deak]

Why would 2030 be the next chance we have, why not 2026?

They were saying that you cant have the World Cup in the same area within a certain amount of time... or something like that.

[Stephen]

atleast we can be happy that america didn't get 2022 wooooooo! Wouldn't be able to stand "SOCCER WORLD CUP"

[ihatehash]

I think a world cup in a small nation will be good, and a really really rich nation

[Arron]

I just hope England literally stuff the guts out of Russia if we play them in 2018.

[iRaaave.]

England should play russia in an opening match tbh on the first day of the cup & then thrash them for beating us at the bid (Doubt it tho) :/

[Deak]

I'm happy & sad at the same time that England haven't got the World Cup... "why i hear you ask?"

Happy: Being a Sheff United fan it means that Sheff Wednesday wont get to host matches :D
Sad: I wanted to go to some matches, but will have to wait at least another 20 years :(

[Stephen]

I think this sums the russia one up:


I'm sure the Russian World Cup will be fine, as long as no African countries qualify, and no teams play any of their black players.

[luce]

wow fifa literally just want money.

[ihatehash]

Well It's not all that bad, at least you have the Olympics and rugby world cup.

[-Heart]

Anyway I guess it's OK, not too bad. I guess it's fair since we hosted it relatively recently.
Yeah, I mean it was only 44 years ago..

[Grig]

I literally hope racist ***** get out of this forum.


Anyway woooo for Russia. We got it, and damn it we have 4 billion dollars to do it. So GOOOD news!

[iRaaave.]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/England-are-going-to-host-the-2022-World-Cup-LOL-Jk-Qatar-are-hosting-it/176770615683322

[-Heart]

I literally hope racist ***** get out of this forum.


Anyway woooo for Russia. We got it, and damn it we have 4 billion dollars to do it. So GOOOD news!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Hong Kong in China? Not Russia/Qatar?

[Grig]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Hong Kong in China? Not Russia/Qatar?

Correct me if I am wrong, but since when the **** did you know anything about me. I am Russian, but living in Hong Kong...

[Geraint]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Hong Kong in China? Not Russia/Qatar?

Russia pretty much **** China off anyway.

Me very racist for not liking Russia.

[Stephen]

Correct me if I am wrong, but since when the **** did you know anything about me. I am Russian, but living in Hong Kong...

well we all know 2 things now. One that you're russian and 2 that you're a grumpy old man

[Grig]

well we all know 2 things now. One that you're russian and 2 that you're a grumpy old man

Alcoholism and grumpiness don't go hand in hand. It's more like the British population on this forum being grumpy due to the fact that even after their prime minister, prince and most famous footballer went there, they failed to secure a bid. I'm not slating you guys, it was fair play to everyone :).

[ihatehash]

To be honest I'm excited for 2026 world cup now! North America, South America, Africa or oceania. probably not either of the second two. But hopefully New Zealand tries.

[Grig]

To be honest I'm excited for 2026 world cup now! North America, South America, Africa or oceania. probably not either of the second two. But hopefully New Zealand tries.

They have a good chance with the rugby and being a first time bidder, which is something Fifa are going for now.

[-Heart]

Correct me if I am wrong, but since when the **** did you know anything about me. I am Russian, but living in Hong Kong...
******* hell someone's a bit touchy. Is it your time of the month?

Seriously, a World Cup in Russia is going to be a grand old disaster. Prediction: Worst World Cup ever, and that's not me being bitter.

[Suspective]

I wouldn't be surprised if Russia paid off the FIFA Executives. They always have had a bit of a reputation for being corrupt.

[Grig]

******* hell someone's a bit touchy. Is it your time of the month?

Seriously, a World Cup in Russia is going to be a grand old disaster. Prediction: Worst World Cup ever, and that's not me being bitter.

Sure is, looks like you're on that time of the month, because you are simply saying that with no justification to back you up. You are just a stereotypical grumpy **** who wants nothing but to slate Russia without providing any sort of evidence what so ever.

As for Russia paying executives and corruption, MrJordan, I will agree- they may have.

[-Heart]

Sure is, looks like you're on that time of the month, because you are simple saying that with no justification to back you up. You are just a stereotypical grumpy **** who wants nothing but to slate Russia without providing any sort of evidence what so ever.
Not really. Look at your bid and look at the conditions, stadia, fans, resources, presentations, etc. and then compare it to the other three bids, and try and tell me that Russia was the best choice to host the World Cup. It's just a ridiculous decision which I can in no way understand. Spain-Portugal would of been by far the better choice if I'm not being biast.

Oh and I'd love to hear your argument as to why you think I'm a "stereotypical" grumpy ****.

[Grig]

Not really. Look at your bid and look at the conditions, stadia, fans, resources, presentations, etc. and then compare it to the other three bids, and try and tell me that Russia was the best choice to host the World Cup. It's just a ridiculous decision which I can in no way understand. Spain-Portugal would of been by far the better choice if I'm not being biast.

Oh and I'd love to hear your argument as to why you think I'm a "stereotypical" grumpy ****.

Yeh, I found the bid pretty up to Fifa standards; what specifics are you saying were so negative?

[Suspective]

FIFA would of spent a lot of time looking at the bid and making sure it met the minimum standards for both stadia and infrastructure. Russia are a relatively wealthy country, so they will be able to pull it off without a hitch. If FIFA believed it wouldn't be possible for the Russians to hold the World Cup they wouldn't of reached the final voting stage.

[luce]

I literally hope racist ***** get out of this forum.


Anyway woooo for Russia. We got it, and damn it we have 4 billion dollars to do it. So GOOOD news!

since when the hell were you russian :\ also it's not racism i don't see how russia has that amount of money to build a WC off the ground when their economy is struggling. It will be over budget and under prepared on top of that about 12 journeys between venues.

England could have hosted this tomorrow.

and mrjordan did you not watch panorama the Fifa reps are about as bent as Stalin himself.

and i'm not being I HATE IT COZ ENGLAND DIDN'T GET IT i'm being i hate it because England should have got it then SPAIN then Russian then qatar.

[AgnesIO]

since when the hell were you russian :\ also it's not racism i don't see how russia has that amount of money to build a WC off the ground when their economy is struggling. It will be over budget and under prepared on top of that about 12 journeys between venues.

England could have hosted this tomorrow.

I could have sworn he was english :L Doesn't sound Russian when he DJ'd on hxl?

I would have loved Spain/Portugal to get it, although England would have been quality (even easier for me to go and see).. but Russia? All they are good for is cold wars.

[Suspective]

I did watch it, and I am not particularly happy about it. I would of much rather England won it. We have the infrastructure, people, teams and stadiums. We just do not have the legacy of being able to host our First World Cup and the first for our area of Europe. Even so, I really do believe that they were bribed and paid off - Russia has a reputation for being corrupt. Looking at 2022, the Arabic countries are rich.

We probably would of won it, if the media weren't set on digging up dirt. Fair enough, they should be unmasked. But at the end of the day, we could of had a World Cup held here.

[luce]

I did watch it, and I am not particularly happy about it. I would of much rather England won it. We have the infrastructure, people, teams and stadiums. We just do not have the legacy of being able to host our First World Cup and the first for our area of Europe. Even so, I really do believe that they were bribed and paid off - Russia has a reputation for being corrupt. Looking at 2022, the Arabic countries are rich.

We probably would of won it, if the media weren't set on digging up dirt. Fair enough, they should be unmasked. But at the end of the day, we could of had a World Cup held here.


I could have sworn he was english :L Doesn't sound Russian when he DJ'd on hxl?

I would have loved Spain/Portugal to get it, although England would have been quality (even easier for me to go and see).. but Russia? All they are good for is cold wars.

yeah well i worked with him at HxL for over a year and knew him and i thought always that he was English and that sometimes he was back home in england. I know he's also lived in NZ or HK but meh i'm not arguing with him over his nationality if he wants to claim they won the WC then he can have fun with that :P actually for a fact he was in UK because he wasn't an international DJ all the time.

Also the Russian president/tsar/dictator didn't even turn up what does that say? done deal?

And russia aren't even good for cold wars they hid behind a wall for decades

MrJordan fair play to you :)

[-Heart]

Yeh, I found the bid pretty up to Fifa standards; what specifics are you saying were so negative?
You say up to Fifa's standards, but you have no idea what goes in behind the scenes at Fifa. Even if it was, it wasn't the stand out bid by any means. All you need to do is look at the passion and love of the game in the bids of England and Spain-Portugal compared to Russia, to realise that this decision was woeful. The conditions ver there are going to be awful, and the transportation especially from game to game is going to be extremely difficult and crowded. Having a World Cup in a country as big as Russia is a serious, serious risk.

Then we come on to the stadiums. Russia's biggest proposed stadiums for their World Cup are going to be 89,000 and 65,000 respectively, with a number of 45,000-50,000 capacity sized stadiums. If chosen, England had prepared to put forward a 90,000 capacity seated stadium, TWO 80,000 capacity seated stadiums, a 75,000 capacity seated stadium, a 72,000 capacity seated stadiums, FOUR 60,000-70,000 capacity seated stadiums, and THREE 50,000 capacity seated stadiums. The sheer numbers alone make the England bid, certainly in terms of stadia, much more superior. The resources available to England are much more impressive than Russia's, and you've got to ask yourself how many visiting fans will come in to watch a World Cup in Russia. I'd imagine there would be a lower amount than in recent World Cups, as it just doesn't have that great appeal that the bids of England/Spain-Portugal do. There's much more of an attraction for both bids. England is the birthplace of football. It features some of the most famous football clubs and stadiums in the world. Meanwhile Spain-Portugal would feature the current World Champions, and the conditions would be much more people friendly.

That's basically the core of my argument here.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well let's be honest, its all about making money for the corrupt FIFA and obviously Russia is offering the best returns on investment (to the shady corrupt FIFA executives) - so if i'm quite honest, i'd want nothing to do with FIFA now or in the future and i'm glad our media exposed them for the slimebags they are. In terms of cost, the world cup (as I understand it) does not cost as much as the dreadful waste of money known as the Olympic Games and apparently you make a return on hosting a World Cup - although I wouldn't put it past our politicians to be able to make a loss instead.


I literally hope racist ***** get out of this forum.

There's always one clown who will bring up racism.

[luce]

England only got 2 votes in the first round of voting out of 22 votes. WOW. SSN official btw

[Deak]

England only got 2 votes in the first round of voting out of 22 votes. WOW. SSN official btw

Wow thats bad & they were saying we were favorites and gave them a good reasons to host the WC

[FlyingJesus]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/England-are-going-to-host-the-2022-World-Cup-LOL-Jk-Qatar-are-hosting-it/176770615683322

England weren't even going for 2022, good one


and i'm not being I HATE IT COZ ENGLAND DIDN'T GET IT i'm being i hate it because England should have got it then SPAIN then Russian then qatar.

You obviously have no idea what the bid was and have no input other than "omg give it to England we play football lots", as proved by the fact you seem to think that 1) Spain actually had a better bid than Russia and 2) Qatar are somehow actually involved when they were bidding for a completely separate competition


And russia aren't even good for cold wars they hid behind a wall for decades

That's kinda what a cold war is


Well let's be honest, its all about making money for the corrupt FIFA and obviously Russia is offering the best returns on investment

The English bid was actually shown as the best economically and with the biggest returns to FIFA by quite some amount, but frankly all corruption aside (lol@them trying to say they won't give us the actual results before they realised they'd all be assassinated by the media if they went along with that) I think having it in Russia is going to do the most for football as a whole - 14 new stadiums of a high quality in Eastern Europe means the expansion of football in that part of the world, which is important considering the number of up-and-coming players and teams from that side of the continent. Obviously I'd have preferred to have it in England but I can't fault the overall decision however shocking the process was


On the racism issue, Spain is by far the worst area of Europe for racism in sport

[Suspective]

England were not eligible to host the 2022 world cup.

[AgnesIO]

FJ brings up yet another good point. Giving it to Russia will mean we get 14 new brilliant stadiums - which England couldn't and wouldn't offer.

[kuzkasate]

What a ridiculous comment.

Russia shouldn't have won - their PM didn't even bother going. But as I said, Dear old Roman Abramovich probably had some nice input.
I think that PM's have more important things to do in all fairness, unlike David Cameron. Just because you brought some famous names along, doesnt mean England should win. You had your chance in your previous World Cup, now let another country have a go.


I could have sworn he was english :L Doesn't sound Russian when he DJ'd on hxl?

I would have loved Spain/Portugal to get it, although England would have been quality (even easier for me to go and see).. but Russia? All they are good for is cold wars.

stereotype tbh "doesnt sound russian" what, do you expect all russians to sound the ******* same?

all of you need to get over it, you lost, russia won, so stop making up pathetic excuses "oh they bribed" "oh they are crap" they are this, they are that, just deal with it, you lost and i really hope russia will prove you wrong and i dont have a doubt it will.

[Suspective]

We haven't hosted a World Cup for decades. I don't think that is a very good point, for saying why England should not be hosting the World Cup.

[kuzkasate]

We haven't hosted a World Cup for decades. I don't think that is a very good point, for saying why England should not be hosting the World Cup.

its not a point, its a fact. you already hosted it, russia havent.

[xxMATTGxx]

its not a point, its a fact. you already hosted it, russia havent.

Shouldn't stop us from hosting it for that reason though.

[Deak]

Shouldn't stop us from hosting it for that reason though.

Agreed, its not like its got to be hosted by a new country every time...

At the person saying at least Russia will have 14 new stadiums and England wouldnt do, then i do think yeh some nice new stadiums but England dont need to do much to our stadiums are most of them are already up to brilliant standards.

[Zycel]

It pretty much sucks lol.

[kuzkasate]

Shouldn't stop us from hosting it for that reason though.

well england were slating mexico not long ago because they hosted it twice, so yeh.

[Grig]

well england were slating mexico not long ago because they hosted it twice, so yeh.

Right with you here my friend, it's like an up the arse attitude!

[Catzsy]

Well best of luck to Russia - they have a lot of infrastructure to build. FIFA were not very impressed with their visit here and probably subconsciously the Panorama programme could have influenced the vote.



To be honest I'm excited for 2026 world cup now! North America, South America, Africa or oceania. probably not either of the second two. But hopefully New Zealand tries.

I am very excited about the next rugby world cup in New Zealand. Should be a good one!

[Special]

to be fair we are hosting the olympics

[xxMATTGxx]

to be fair we are hosting the olympics

Indeed we are and they are getting the winter Olympics! xD

[Catzsy]

Wow, loving how you guys can take a loss. Russia was always a favorite and they deserve it. it was not fixed, Russia was just better this time.


Indeed we are and they are getting the winter Olympics! xD

And Scotland is hosting Commonwealth Games in 2014, Can't see Russia getting that at anytime. :P The UK are doing pretty well for big events.

[xxMATTGxx]

And Scotland is hosting Commonwealth Games in 2014, Can't see Russia getting that at anytime. :P The UK are doing pretty well for big events.

Wasn't really saying it as a bad thing but it shouldn't go by what other events that country is hosting either. As here's another example:

2014 - Brazil will host the world cup
2016 - Brazil will host the Olympic games

[Starburst..x]

Fair play to Russia, I guess it will put their name on the map a little bit more and it's not like we're not hosting anything within the next decade, the olympics will be pretty damn good and at least our olympic team seem to win things and act as though it means something to them!

[Deak]

Maybe by the next time we get a chance to hold the world cup in 2030 ... all of this will be forgotten about once our name is pulled out of the envelope...

... only 20 years to wait for that :/

Oh and as people have said at least we do get the Olympics in 2012 :D

[Catzsy]

Wasn't really saying it as a bad thing but it shouldn't go by what other events that country is hosting either. As here's another example:

2014 - Brazil will host the world cup
2016 - Brazil will host the Olympic games



I see what you mean I guess. :) Okay lets start saving and get out swim wear ready for Brazil. I would prefer the Olympic games.

[FlyingJesus]

At the person saying at least Russia will have 14 new stadiums and England wouldnt do, then i do think yeh some nice new stadiums but England dont need to do much to our stadiums are most of them are already up to brilliant standards.

That's kinda the point - Russia having the successful bid means more for football as a whole than if we'd won it and simply done a bit of renovation in Milton Keynes lol


Fair play to Russia, I guess it will put their name on the map a little bit more

Yeah other than this world cup bid Russia haven't really stuck out much in history...

[Arron]

lol at Ant on IAC taking a hit on Russia and Panorama.

[StefanWolves]

Right with you here my friend, it's like an up the arse attitude!

Oh dear, I'm getting rather angry...

[:G.M.T:]

I'm not suprised with this result in the slightest to be honest, I have always had my doubts about FIFA having it in for England. In all fairness we would of held one of the best World Cups and I thought that our bid was better than Russia's, Spain/Portugal's and Holland/Belgium's. Good luck to the Russians but I have a sneaky feeling that the 2018 World Cup will be one of the worst World Cups.

[StefanWolves]

Anyway, with everything that's gone on, the English bid can leave Zurich with their heads held high and we as a nation should be hugely proud of them and the bid. They put together a fantastic bid, provided FIFA with everything they wanted, money, passion, legacy, government support and funding etc, but it wasn't good enough. It was on paper the best bid - by far, the potentially most successful, most rewarding (in terms of money and legacy) and greatest World Cup in history.

This Is just another example of Blatter feeding his huge ego, saying HE wants to take the WC all around the globe, Africa, the Middle East and now Eastern Europe. The man is an ego maniac, and the sooner he is gone - the better it is for us English.

I say it's FIFAs loss, not ours. :)

[Conservative,]

I predicted this outcome. ;)

Russia bribed them - as Panorama proved. So did Qatar but no one cares. The unfortunate thing is that Panorama could've aired NEXT week and got BETTER audience attention once we had won/lost the bid. If we had lost then people would've paid more attention because they'd be able to point fingers - if we had one we'd just be like "at least they changed in time". But they showed it before hand and could potentially be scapegoats for the bid's failure.

But meh, Russia will suck in 2018 because there's no decent stadiums. Qatar will be alright but I'd have voted England & Australia.

[Deak]

OMG are people still talking about this... get over it - we've not got the World Cup in 2018... so what I'm sure we will all survive.

Rant over :)

[AgnesIO]

I predicted this outcome. ;)

Russia bribed them - as Panorama proved. So did Qatar but no one cares. The unfortunate thing is that Panorama could've aired NEXT week and got BETTER audience attention once we had won/lost the bid. If we had lost then people would've paid more attention because they'd be able to point fingers - if we had one we'd just be like "at least they changed in time". But they showed it before hand and could potentially be scapegoats for the bid's failure.

But meh, Russia will suck in 2018 because there's no decent stadiums. Qatar will be alright but I'd have voted England & Australia.

Because Qatar and Australia have good stadiums? :S

Anyway, can someone explain what happened in panorama? I don't know anything about this bribe thing etc :p

[Conservative,]

Because Qatar and Australia have good stadiums? :S

Anyway, can someone explain what happened in panorama? I don't know anything about this bribe thing etc :p

They investigated claims of other countries bribing. So they claimed to be American companies offering huge sums for their vote. All of them (including vice-president) took the bribes.

[StefanWolves]

OMG are people still talking about this... get over it - we've not got the World Cup in 2018... so what I'm sure we will all survive.

Rant over :)
Put it this way, now you may never see a world cup in England in your life time. It kinda hurts to think that in the future when I have kids that I wont be able to go and watch England in England in the world cup.

[Conservative,]

Put it this way, now you may never see a world cup in England in your life time. It kinda hurts to think that in the future when I have kids that I wont be able to go and watch England in England in the world cup.

The average age of someone in UK is 80. I think you're what...16? the next one to bid for is 2026. So when you're 32. Then 2030 - 36. 2034, 2038, 2042, 2046, 2050, 2054, 2058, 2062, 2066, 2070, 2074 (when you're 80). I'd be surprised if we didn't host one of those 13.

[StefanWolves]

The average age of someone in UK is 80. I think you're what...16? the next one to bid for is 2026. So when you're 32. Then 2030 - 36. 2034, 2038, 2042, 2046, 2050, 2054, 2058, 2062, 2066, 2070, 2074 (when you're 80). I'd be surprised if we didn't host one of those 13.
We won't. Face it, it's never going to happen.

[Conservative,]

We won't. Face it, it's never going to happen.

We will. Blatter will retire in a few years. We'll bid for 26/30/34 and I'd be surprised if we don't get one of them.

[ihatehash]

Blatter didn't choose the winner, so don't think he has anything against your country. FIFA wants to expand the game to countries that are developing. Those who say the Russians were bribing the FIFA officials are probably wrong. England was also caught bribing some of the Oceania officials. I don't think you can blame anyone, but enjoy what you got, enjoy the Olympics, rugby world cup etc...

[Eoin247]

I'd say you guys in the UK will get it in this lifetime.

[FlyingJesus]

Russia will suck in 2018 because there's no decent stadiums.

You do realise the main part of their bid was that they're building new stadiums right


The average age of someone in UK is 80. I think you're what...16? the next one to bid for is 2026. So when you're 32. Then 2030 - 36. 2034, 2038, 2042, 2046, 2050, 2054, 2058, 2062, 2066, 2070, 2074 (when you're 80). I'd be surprised if we didn't host one of those 13.

You can't bid for every competition lol... 2030 is the next one we're allowed to put our case forward on, and if we go for that and lose then god knows when we can next try and so on


I'd say you guys in the UK will get it in this lifetime.

I dunno, by 2030 when we're allowed to try again we might not even have a country lol, could just be an island of the United States of Europe *cue Dan*

[StefanWolves]

Euroland sounds much more disney-fied :P

[Deak]

We will see England in England in the world cup the next one we can go for is 2030... so im sure you'll still be around in 20 years time :)

Theres a long wait but we will eventually get it

[T@R]

I haven't read through the 16 pages of this because it'd take too long, but I'm guessing there are lots of fellow Brits thinking we were hard done by, etc.
But even before the Panorama show was aired, Russia were the CLEAR favourites to win the bid, and if we weren't all biased as Brits, we'd have known they had a stronger bid.
Of course there is corruption in Fifa, and as our head of bid said, we shouldn't try and get the World Cup again until there is a major clean up of Fifa and its executives.
Whether Russia won fairly or not is out of the question, because with 2 votes, we must've finished last out of the 4 main bids, which is quite humiliating, considering Holland actually broke FIFA rules by publishing their demands, and still seemingly ended up getting more votes than us.

[StefanWolves]

I mean why Russia? At least if it was in Spain we could have gone over for a couple of weeks, stopped in a four star all inclusive hotel and watched a few England games. But we arent even going to get that, instead we are going to have to travel to one of the most corrupt, expensive and racist countries on earth.

[kuzkasate]

I predicted this outcome. ;)

Russia bribed them - as Panorama proved. So did Qatar but no one cares. The unfortunate thing is that Panorama could've aired NEXT week and got BETTER audience attention once we had won/lost the bid. If we had lost then people would've paid more attention because they'd be able to point fingers - if we had one we'd just be like "at least they changed in time". But they showed it before hand and could potentially be scapegoats for the bid's failure.

But meh, Russia will suck in 2018 because there's no decent stadiums. Qatar will be alright but I'd have voted England & Australia.
thats why they are building new stadiums...


I mean why Russia? At least if it was in Spain we could have gone over for a couple of weeks, stopped in a four star all inclusive hotel and watched a few England games. But we arent even going to get that, instead we are going to have to travel to one of the most corrupt, expensive and racist countries on earth.
seriously, you think spains all that good? its one of the poorest countries... and how do you know, have you been to russia? have you given it a chance?

tbh, most of you are all biased. russia were the favourites to win, they were predicted no.1 by the bookies, so idk why you are all accusing russia of bribing, because there is no proof, however, there is proof that england tried to bribe, so seriously, you cant say anything.

[Conservative,]

thats why they are building new stadiums...


seriously, you think spains all that good? its one of the poorest countries... and how do you know, have you been to russia? have you given it a chance?

tbh, most of you are all biased. russia were the favourites to win, they were predicted no.1 by the bookies, so idk why you are all accusing russia of bribing, because there is no proof, however, there is proof that england tried to bribe, so seriously, you cant say anything.

Panorama showed proof that they'd taken bribes from Qatar, USA & Russia.

[kuzkasate]

Panorama showed proof that they'd taken bribes from Qatar, USA & Russia.

but it wasnt exactly "proof" was it? common, stop being ridiculous, even if they did, you did aswell.

[Conservative,]

but it wasnt exactly "proof" was it? common, stop being ridiculous, even if they did, you did aswell.

I did? No I didn't...but Britain wasn't accused by any nation. Russia doesn't deserve the World Cup. They are an awful choice - they can't host well. My father (who is manager of travel - organising flights & hotels for the companies front guys - for a huge company) said that Russia will not be able to cope with all the fans because they do not have enough hotels of decent standard, and it will be spread across the whole country which takes ages to get across.

[kuzkasate]

I did? No I didn't...but Britain wasn't accused by any nation. Russia doesn't deserve the World Cup. They are an awful choice - they can't host well. My father (who is manager of travel - organising flights & hotels for the companies front guys - for a huge company) said that Russia will not be able to cope with all the fans because they do not have enough hotels of decent standard, and it will be spread across the whole country which takes ages to get across.

thats what your dad thinks. i myself am russian, and i have plenty of family over there, and trust me, your dad is wrong. russia are building more things, they are improving roads, railways, planes. they had dashed out £6.4 billion, so maybe at the moment, yes, russia wont be able to deal with the fans, but it has 8 years. i guess we will only have to wait until 2018 to see.

[karter]

Does Qatar even participate in FIFA events?

Also the bribe thing , jealous people always make that up.

[StefanWolves]

Are you for real? Have you been to Spain? I have been there 8 times so please do not try and lecture me *REMOVED*

Just remember, the rumble in the jungle did nothing for the people of Zaire. At the end of all this the same can be applied for Russia and more notably, Qatar.

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thats why they are building new stadiums...


seriously, you think spains all that good? its one of the poorest countries... and how do you know, have you been to russia? have you given it a chance?

tbh, most of you are all biased. russia were the favourites to win, they were predicted no.1 by the bookies, so idk why you are all accusing russia of bribing, because there is no proof, however, there is proof that england tried to bribe, so seriously, you cant say anything.

[FlyingJesus]

Russia doesn't deserve the World Cup. They are an awful choice - they can't host well.

You know this of course, having watched all the other World Cups that Russia have hosted

[Conservative,]

You know this of course, having watched all the other World Cups that Russia have hosted

Why do you think they've never hosted it before? ;)

[FlyingJesus]

Because they hadn't won a bid before

[StefanWolves]

Why do you think they've never hosted it before? ;)
Because they USED TO BE the most hated country on earth, not anymore though.

[Conservative,]

I'll give them a chance but I'm not going to be optimistic about it.

[StefanWolves]

I too think it's going to be unbelievably difficult. But they won and they have the chance so fair play to them. It was the wrong decision but yea. That's life. Get on with it.

[kuzkasate]

Are you for real? Have you been to Spain? I have been there 8 times so please do not try and lecture me you idiot.

Just remember, the rumble in the jungle did nothing for the people of Zaire. At the end of all this the same can be applied for Russia and more notably, Qatar.

Why don't you **** off back to Russia if it's so perfect?
*REMOVED*, just shows how much you know. Spain takes out 8 billion from the EU, 8 billion is how much the uk pay atm.

and really, *REMOVED*, i never said its perfect, *REMOVED* who has no self-opinion because your opinion is influenced by the **** you hear on the tv & from other brainless *****. & if i had the chance, i would move away from this **** hole, because clearly, you have never been to russia, you havent lived there, *REMOVED*

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[StefanWolves]

How mature of you. What I said was not racist. I assume you are in the UK legally, therefore anything I have said isn't racist. Moron.

Just because Spain takes £8bn from the EU, they're poor? Does that mean Ireland is a poor country just because they got bailed out by the EU? no.

*REMOVED*, just shows how much you know. Spain takes out 8 billion from the EU, 8 billion is how much the uk pay atm.

and really, *REMOVED*, i never said its perfect, *REMOVED* who has no self-opinion because your opinion is influenced by the **** you hear on the tv & from other brainless *****. & if i had the chance, i would move away from this **** hole, because clearly, you have never been to russia, you havent lived there, *REMOVED* and stop acting like you know everything, because you dont know ****.

[kuzkasate]

How mature of you. What I said was not racist. I assume you are in the UK legally, therefore anything I have said isn't racist. Moron.

Just because Spain takes £8bn from the EU, they're poor? Does that mean Ireland is a poor country just because they got bailed out by the EU? no.

I actually dont care what you think of me, last of my worries believe me, but I am not gonna sit here and listen to the **** you say at me. And telling me to **** off back to Russia, is racist.

Clearly, you know nothing about Spain, because they are a poor country, all those fancy hotels and beaches are bought out by people from Russia, France etc. Infact, there is a whole little part of Spain, that is fully owned by a Russian person, so yes, Spain are poor, do your research?

[StefanWolves]

Do you want me to get technical? Most educated people base a poor country on their GDP per capita. If you go by this:

Russia = $8,676
Spain = $31,774

The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is the amount of goods and services produced in a year, in a country, this is then divided by the population of the country. It is often positively correlated with the standard of living in a given country. Seeing as though Spain's GDP per Capita is almost 3x as much as Russia's, your argument that Spain is a 'poor country' is flawed. If anything Russia, as you would it put it, is a 'poor country'.

Just because Spain is in debt doesn't make it a dirty, rough or bad place to live.

I rest my case.


I actually dont care what you think of me, last of my worries believe me, but I am not gonna sit here and listen to the **** you say at me. And telling me to **** off back to Russia, is racist.

Clearly, you know nothing about Spain, because they are a poor country, all those fancy hotels and beaches are bought out by people from Russia, France etc. Infact, there is a whole little part of Spain, that is fully owned by a Russian person, so yes, Spain are poor, do your research?

[kuzkasate]

Do you want me to get technical? Most educated people base a poor country on their GDP per capita. If you go by this:

Russia = $8,676
Spain = $31,774

The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI) is the amount of goods and services produced in a year, in a country, this is then divided by the population of the country. It is often positively correlated with the standard of living in a given country. Seeing as though Spain's GDP per Capita is almost 3x as much as Russia's, your argument that Spain is a 'poor country' is flawed. If anything Russia, as you would it put it, is a 'poor country'.

Just because Spain is in debt doesn't make it a dirty, rough or bad place to live.

I rest my case.

You still dont get it do you. Do you know how the people live? Just trust me, I studied this last week in my Business Studies, so I think I know.

[StefanWolves]

You still dont get it do you. Do you know how the people live? Just trust me, I studied this last week in my Business Studies, so I think I know.I have been studying business studies and economic studies for the past 4 years and you expect me to 'trust' you on your bias and unsupported judgement that Spain is a bad place to live and is a poor country 'because you studied it last week'? Please don't insult me.

'so trust me I should know, enit'

[kuzkasate]

I have been studying business studies and economic studies for the past 4 years and you expect me to 'trust' you on your bias and unsupported judgement that Spain is a bad place to live and is a poor country 'because you studied it last week'? Please don't insult me.

'so trust me I should know, enit'

Well you might need to get rid of that great business teacher of yours. And bias? Like you can talk about being bias.. seriously.

[StefanWolves]

Well you might need to get rid of that great business teacher of yours. And bias? Like you can talk about being bias.. seriously.

You have provided no proof of your flawed judgement that Spain is a 'poor' country. Your posts have no substance whatsoever. Please prove me wrong, please?

A kid who's been studying business studies for less than a year is trying to lecture me who's studied economics and business studies for the past 3 1/2 years. Funny stuff.

Come back with some proof next time.

[kuzkasate]

You have provided no proof of your flawed judgement that Spain is a 'poor' country. Your posts have no substance whatsoever. Please prove me wrong, please?

A kid who's been studying business studies for less than a year is trying to lecture me who's studied economics and business studies for the past 3 1/2 years. Funny stuff.

Come back with some proof next time.
Less than a year? This is my third year darling. Nearly as much as you and my teacher is an experienced businessman, who also has properties in Spain, so I think he, out of anyone else, should know. And surely, if your so good at business, you would know the GDP, doesnt necessarily mean that its a rich country.

[StefanWolves]

Oh dear. Still no substance. The only argument I have seen comin from you so far, darling, is you saying 'your teacher is wrong and mines right' and that 'my teacher is better than yours'.

I'll keep checking back this thread and if you do eventually add some substance to your posts I will post back. Until you do that don't bother replying to me. :)

[kuzkasate]

Oh dear. Still no substance. The only argument I have seen comin from you so far, darling, is you saying 'your teacher is wrong and mines right' and that 'my teacher is better than yours'.

I'll keep checking back this thread and if you do eventually add some substance to your posts I will post back. Until you do that don't bother replying to me. :)

Clearly not, I just know its a fact & if you really want proof, I will gather you a load of solid proof, by say Monday?

[StefanWolves]

Clearly not, I just know its a fact & if you really want proof, I will gather you a load of solid proof, by say Monday?

Why that long? If your teacher is so amazing then you should know all this already shouldn't you? Btw I didn't know in Business Studies you studied economic principles etc, I know don't, I studied marketing and admin etc. Strange that. I smell porkies.

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Good night.

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[kuzkasate]

Why that long? If your teacher is so amazing then you should know all this already shouldn't you? Btw I didn't know in Business Studies you studied economic principles etc, I know don't, I studied marketing and admin etc. Strange that. I smell porkies.

I'm not bothering arguing with you anymore, I may aswell go and argue with a horse, at least I'd get more sense and intalect from one.

Good night.

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[Describe]

England will win the race to host 2018, mark my words. :)
Hahahaha!

[StefanWolves]

Hahahaha!

Well the PM wasted nearly a week of his time. And yea I was wrong! :P

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Why that long? I have a life, unlike you. I have other things to do and if you want actual solid proof, then I will get it to you.

Playing the 'u have no life!!' card already? Are you already admitting defeat? Don't insult me because I'm smarter than you.

As I said earlier 'The rumble in the jungle did nothing for the people of Zaire' this would also apply to you because your teacher is obviously not teaching you anything. Either that or you need to clean yours ears out.

I suppose I better wait till Monday, then I can hear what your amazing business studies teacher who also knows the INS and OUTS of economics has to say on this subject. PM me with what he tells you to say.

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Bye. :)

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[kuzkasate]

Well the PM wasted nearly a week of his time. And yea I was wrong! :P

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Playing the 'u have no life!!' card already? Are you already admitting defeat? Don't insult me because I'm smarter than you.

As I said earlier 'The rumble in the jungle did nothing for the people of Zaire' this would also apply to you because your teacher is obviously not teaching you anything. Either that or you need to clean yours ears out.

I suppose I better wait till Monday, then I can hear what your amazing business studies teacher who also knows the INS and OUTS of economics has to say on this subject. PM me with what he tells you to say.

Now I must go - I have a life to be getting back to, unlike you who will be online all night sweating on an online forum/game.

Bye. :)
Admitting defeat? Lol, if theres one thing your good at, its making me laugh. Well, wouldnt it be wierd if you weren't smarter than me, seeming as I am still in school?

And why PM you, scared of getting owned? I will post it here, for everyone to see.

Okay, yes, go, play some more COD and you are the one with the 4,500+ posts, so dont get me started on "sweating on an online forum."

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