Manchester arena 'explosion'.

[lawrawrrr]

no im just frustrated that worse things happen in the world and they dont get the same recognition in the media. the fact that it was an ariana grande concert is perhaps the only reason why this has gone world wide

it's true that western tragedies get more cover than african/middle east/asian but that's for the same reason that news from scotland rarely reaches me here in london.... it's not local

we as a human race tend to be more sympathetic to our "own kind" because it's very easy to imagine yourself in that situation. I can't imagine being in a war zone in Syria or Libya for example but I can very much imagine being in Manchester so it's much more real
to me. And to thousands of others.

Many of the other "worse things in the world" are reported on in exactly the same way, but they just don't get shared because we can't imagine ourselves in those situations.

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Perhaps the old-time definition of humane needs to change in today's society.

ok please redefine it i'd literally love to know what you think is humane

[myles]

it's true that western tragedies get more cover than african/middle east/asian but that's for the same reason that news from scotland rarely reaches me here in london.... it's not local

we as a human race tend to be more sympathetic to our "own kind" because it's very easy to imagine yourself in that situation. I can't imagine being in a war zone in Syria or Libya for example but I can very much imagine being in Manchester so it's much more real
to me. And to thousands of others.

Many of the other "worse things in the world" are reported on in exactly the same way, but they just don't get shared because we can't imagine ourselves in those situations.

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ok please redefine it i'd literally love to know what you think is humane

yeah i udnerstand what ur saying i guess but its still annoying how this is going to bbe the topic of discussion for a sold week and i just cant deal with it

[lemons]

MY opinion on matters:

London Mayor Sadiq Khan was right by saying that terrorism is “part and parcel of living in a big city”. Terrorism is hardly a new concept and an attack can happen at any moment whatever the national threat level is. Events like this, as tragic as they are, allow for important debate and discussion on how we can prevent (not stop - we can't) further attacks as well as letting us pay our respects in whatever ways we want.

Honestly I don't think there is much we can do. We can bomb Syria as much as we like it's never going to eradicate terrorists, nor will deporting every single Muslim or everyone on a watch list in this country. It's a matter of intelligence these days, which already prevents many many planned terror attacks but obviously didn't help in this case.

[lawrawrrr]

yeah i udnerstand what ur saying i guess but its still annoying how this is going to bbe the topic of discussion for a sold week and i just cant deal with it

i'd be surprised if it's just a week. but this is something close to home for all of us and that is why - someone in germany isn't going to be even thinking about it beyond tomorrow probably - but we are because it's scary and it just happened to us

if your house got broken into tonight i'd be like omg myles I'm so sorry, but it's not gonna make me much more worried about my own house. Next door gets broken into? I'm gonna be scared that thieves are targetting my area and worry about that. Same concept.

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MY opinion on matters:

London Mayor Sadiq Khan was right by saying that terrorism is “part and parcel of living in a big city”. Terrorism is hardly a new concept and an attack can happen at any moment whatever the national threat level is. Events like this, as tragic as they are, allow for important debate and discussion on how we can prevent (not stop - we can't) further attacks as well as letting us pay our respects in whatever ways we want.

Honestly I don't think there is much we can do. We can bomb Syria as much as we like it's never going to eradicate terrorists, nor will deporting every single Muslim or everyone on a watch list in this country. It's a matter of intelligence these days, which already prevents many many planned terror attacks but obviously didn't help in this case.

+1.

[dbgtz]

Also whoever mentioned bombs, that seems like a terrible idea.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'll see you all in the next terrorist attack thread in a few months (or weeks) time to repeat much the same thing.

But you never know. Crying, using hashtags, changing your profile picture, hugging a muslim and singing John Lennon's 'Imagine' around a piano in a public square might just scare and thus convince the Islamists into halting their holy war. We'll wait and see.

My own opinion on this trajectory is quite pessimistic. The attacks in western nations will continue to spiral to levels where security services can no longer deal with them, and public anger will then boil over in the years to come where leaders who make Marine Le Pen and Geert Wilders look soft will be elected. Civil liberties won't even be a thought. In the end, people will be pushed to it.

[FlyingJesus]

Civil liberties won't even be a thought.

Not if you have your way

[Landon]

ok please redefine it i'd literally love to know what you think is humane

I'm not exactly certain, but what I will say is that showing compassion, as the definition of humane states, isn't ideal in today's world. Things have to be done to protect others.

Like Dan said. We'll see each other here in a few days/weeks/months doing the same thing, crying, promoting vigils, and flashing the country's flags to try to cope with this. Not gonna work - once again.

[cameron446:]

I'm not exactly certain, but what I will say is that showing compassion, as the definition of humane states, isn't ideal in today's world. Things have to be done to protect others.

Like Dan said. We'll see each other here in a few days/weeks/months doing the same thing, crying, promoting vigils, and flashing the country's flags to try to cope with this. Not gonna work - once again.

Vigils is away for loved ones and close friends for some closure of what has happend. That's is why I love living in the UK because no matter how bad things will get everyone is always there for each other.

[buttons]

more victims. the polish couple who went to pick up their children (the children are safe). martin hett the guy who was going to america. kelly brewster, the lady who shielded her niece, alison howe and lisa lees who also went to pick up children, olivia campbell the 15 year old whose mum appealed for her on tv, megan hurley a schoolgirl.