Labour Leadership Result (12th September 2015)

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3230499/I-voted-Britain-LEAVE-Europe-Corbyn-admits.html

Labour Leadership Results: Today we find out the new Labour leader, as left-wing frontrunner Jeremy Corbyn signals backing British exit from the EU

From left to right: Jeremy Corbyn MP, Liz Kendell MP, Andy Burnham MP, Yvette Cooper MP

Jeremy Corbyn has finally admitted he voted for Britain to leave Europe in the only referendum to date on severing ties with Brussels. With the hardline socialist widely-expected to be named Labour leader tomorrow, the revelation that he opposed UK membership of the European Community in 1975 has triggered panic among pro-EU politicians in the party. Mr Corbyn has previously warned that support for the EU will collapse if it becomes a 'totally brutal organisation'. Under Ed Miliband, Labour's backing for membership of the EU was widely seen as its only major policy which appealed to corporate big business.

David Cameron has promised to renegotiate Britain's members of the EU before staging an in-out referendum by the end of 2017. The other Labour leadership contenders - Andy Burnham, Liz Kendall and Yvette Cooper - have all argued that Brussels needs reform but would always vote to stay in. Mr Corbyn has repeatedly dodged questions on the issue suggesting he could back EU withdrawal, raising the spectre of a return to Labour's Euroscepticism of the 1980s.

In the 1975 referendum the Labour party was split, with Prime Minister Harold Wilson forced to allow his own ministers to campaign against his plea to stay in the European Community. Voters were asked: 'Do you think the United Kingdom should stay in the European Community (Common Market)?' In the final result, 67 per cent of people voted to remain after a controversial campaign. Asked at a campaign rally in North London how he voted in the 1975 referendum, Mr Corbyn told Reuters: 'I did vote and I voted "No".'

Ukip leader Nigel Farage has made numerous appeals to Mr Corbyn to join the out campaign in the coming referendum. Pressed on the issue during the leadership campaign, Mr Corbyn refused to say how he would vote, claiming he did not know when the referendum would be or what question will be asked.

During a debate on LBC radio, He said: 'If Europe becomes a totally brutal organisation that treats every one of its member states in the way that the people of Greece have been treated at the moment, then I think Europe will lose a lot of support from a lot of people.' He heaped praise on Labour's 1983 manifesto - on which he was first elected as an MP - but sought to claim it only promised a referendum on Europe. In fact it claimed that 'British withdrawal from the Community is the right policy for Britain'.

I disagree with Corbyn on 99.9% of issues. I do not believe we should back the terrorist IRA. I do not believe we should back the terrorists in Hamas over Israel. I do not believe we should abolish the monarchy. I do not believe in complete and total open borders. I do not believe we should increase taxes on the most wealthy and successul in our society. I do not believe we should renationalise energy, the railways and so on. He's on the record as being 100% the opposite to me on these issues.

But you know what? Jeremy Corbyn at least, like Enoch Powell/Tony Benn/Michael Foot/Alex Salmond and Nigel Farage, does say what he believes in. If you listen to Cooper and Burnham they are utterly pathetic when you hear them. Absolutely meaningless drivel from a bunch of Blairite clones. I am no left-winger, but I can at least respect someone who will answer a question even if I do not like the answer rather than answer a question that was never asked in the first place. The reason why Corbyn is capturing support, like Nigel Farage, Donald Trump and so on is that he actually speaks from the heart whether you agree with him or not: and that's bloody refreshing.

The fact he's considering making Labour be pro-British independence actually makes me - dare I say it - consider voting Labour. Seriously.

Thoughts?

[MKR&*42]

For anyone who wants to see it live: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ew-leader.html

I believe deputy leadership is 11am and leadership is 11;30am

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Sources apparently stating Corbyn has won with around 60% of the vote. That's more than Bliar won when he became leader.

This is hiliarious. How long until half the party start dusting off their old SDP badges and placards?

[MKR&*42]

The unnecessary applauding after every sentence is getting quite irritating

[AgnesIO]

Unfortunately my internet is far too slow to stream it live, so having to rely on text updates. Missing out on the atmosphere!

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Now managing to view the Telegraph stream for a few seconds at a time... you are right, there is a lot of clapping!

Just want them to announce the main leader..

[lemons]

u can do it liz come on x

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this voting is actually really exciting

[MKR&*42]

Tom Watson wins Deputy Leadership

Deputy Leadership


Round 1
Ben Bradshaw = 39,080 = 9.6%
Stella ... (idk her last name) = 78,100 = 19.1%
Angela = 66,013 = 16.2%
Caroline Flint = 64,425 = 15.8%
Tom Watson = 160,852 = 39.4%


Lowest eliminated = Ben.


Round 2


Stella = 86,555 = 21.4%
Angela = 72,517 = 17.9% of votes, might have got the last three numbers wrong
Caroline = 74, 581 = 18.4%
Tom Watson = 170, 589 = 42.2%


Lowest eliminated = Angela


Round 3


Stella = 103,746 = 26.4%
Caroline = 89,538 = 22.8%
Tom Watson = 198,962 = 50.7%


Tom Watson wins

[Evanora]

this is like x factor results

liz kendell looks evil

[MKR&*42]

I am fairly certain Jeremy has just won, but I can't work out the % myself.
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Yes he has

Andy B = 80,462 = 19%
Yvette C = 71,928 = 17%
Jeremy = 251,417 = 59.5%
Liz = 18,857 = 4.5%

Hot damn

[AgnesIO]

Has Corbyn got 50%? I heard 251,000 then the video cut :S