Cameron lectures China on democracy

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eedom-law.html

Tidal wave of cash risks us all: Cameron warns globalisation will 'go into reverse' unless China corrects trade imbalance

• PM says Britain's democratic traditions 'make our government better'

• Mr Cameron raises concerns over detention of Nobel Peace Prize winner

Globalisation could 'go into reverse', harming economies around the world, unless China acts to correct dangerous trade imbalances, David Cameron warned today. In an extraordinary condemnation of their repressive political regime, the Prime Minister warned that the massive surpluses created by China's export success had created 'a dangerous tidal wave of money' sweeping around the world. The Prime Minister, who is on a high-profile state visit to Beijing, used a public speech at Peking University to insist that greater economic freedoms for China must go hand in hand with greater political freedom for its people. On the eve of a G20 summit at which Beijing will face pressure to allow faster appreciation of its yuan currency, Mr Cameron also risked infuriating his Communist hosts by championing democratic elections and a free press and by calling for China to develop 'a greater political opening'.

Mr Cameron pointed out that were he not in China, he would today be facing questions from the Opposition in the House of Commons. His Chinese counterparts, on the other hand, have ruthlessly crushed all political dissent. Mr Cameron accepted that Britain's society was 'not perfect' and insisted he was not trying to lecture the Chinese or claim a position of 'moral superiority'. But he said Britain's democratic traditions 'make our government better and our country stronger', adding: 'The rise in economic freedom in China in recent years has been hugely beneficial to China and to the world. 'I hope that in time this will lead to a greater political opening, because I am convinced that the best guarantor of prosperity and stability is for economic and political progress to go in step together.' Mr Cameron said he wanted 'to make the positive case for the world to see China's rise as an opportunity, not a threat'.

But he said if Europe's openness to China is to be maintained, it must be clear that 'China is open to Europe'. And he said China can take a leading role now on dealing with economic problems as the world emerges from recession. His remarks come at a particularly sensitive time for the one-party Chinese state. Yesterday officials barred the lawyer of Nobel peace prize winner Liu Xiaobo, who has been jailed for 11 years for calling for political reform, from travelling to the UK. Mr Cameron is understood to have raised the detention of Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo at a banquet hosted by premier Wen Jiabao last night.

Well thats rather hypocritical isn't it Mr Cameron, especially when China doesn't pretend to be democratic whilst we do - and Call Me Dave rolls over for unelected EU politicians to make a majority of our laws while unelected European judges implement a foreign justice system on British subjects over here in the United Kingdom. I mean we could even add on that the fact that the United States has missiles and military bases on British soil as though we were some puny colony - while we follow them into ridiculous wars.

The United Kingdom is broke yet Cameron is now lecturing the Chinese (who are very wealthy) on how to run their economic policy, how very patronising to both us at home and to the Chinese.

- China is wealthy, Britain is poor (by debt standards).
- China makes her own laws, Britain has many of her laws imposed on her from the continent.
- China has a popualtion of 1bn+ yet has less CCTV than Britain which has a population of 60m+

Why the Chinese give this man or any western leader the time of day is beyond me.

Thoughts?

[Dean]

Britain is a mess, China isn't, end of.

[Jordy]

Britain is a mess, China isn't, end of.

We get a vote, we can say anything we like, we don't have people dying of poverty or being locked up for opposing the government. I can honestly say I've never read a post which angers me so much. You don't seem to appreciate how lucky you are to be brought up in Britain with all the wealth and freedom. Yes this country isn't perfect but it's absolute ******** to suggest Britain is in a mess and China isn't. There is a few issues with this country but they are pretty minor compared to the rest of the worlds, particularly Chinas.

At the end of the day, which would you have rather been born, Chinese or British? Where would you rather live, China or Britain? Yeah thought so.

That applies to anyone else who fancies talking so much nonsense as well.

[Conservative,]

We get a vote, we can say anything we like, we don't have people dying of poverty or being locked up for opposing the government. I can honestly say I've never read a post which angers me so much. You don't seem to appreciate how lucky you are to be brought up in Britain with all the wealth and freedom. Yes this country isn't perfect but it's absolute ******** to suggest Britain is in a mess and China isn't. There is a few issues with this country but they are pretty minor compared to the rest of the worlds, particularly Chinas.

At the end of the day, which would you have rather been born, Chinese or British? Where would you rather live, China or Britain? Yeah thought so.

That applies to anyone else who fancies talking so much nonsense as well.

Agree with you 100%. Yes, ok, China are, as a state, richer, but their GDP is lower than ours, they have people dying of starvation, and their standard of living is a hell of a lot worse than ours. They don't have free elections or free press, and if you oppose their commy regime you get locked up and called a loonie. If that's not a mess then you're messed...in the head.

[Jordy]

Agree with you 100%. Yes, ok, China are, as a state, richer, but their GDP is lower than ours, they have people dying of starvation, and their standard of living is a hell of a lot worse than ours. They don't have free elections or free press, and if you oppose their commy regime you get locked up and called a loonie. If that's not a mess then you're messed...in the head.

Exactly, it really is as simple as that

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[immense]

China is a ghastly country.

[Conservative,]

China is a ghastly country.

Glad we see eye to eye on that then Jake

[Neversoft]

their GDP is lower than ours

No it isn't.

[Conservative,]

No it isn't.

I meant average wealth, I can't remember the name of it, I don't do geography. But essentially, the questions still asks, where would you rather live: China or Britain?

[ifuseekamy]

Seeing as we practically invented the best part of their country, which is an economic global superpower in its own right, they ought to listen.