Which political view is best for Britain?

[Jippz]

1 word:
Forehead.

[ifuseekamy]

Communism sounds good in theory because it's an idealistic utopia, like most political extremes.

[Jordy]

Good point.
I'd say that socialism and communism are ideal, however in the words of Susan Sarandon "we don't live in that kind of a world".
Anything conservative, thatcherite, or remotely right wing in my opinion is too mediocre, and too much settling for minimum.

Isn't it better to stop a rich man from living in luxury, than to stop a more man from living?

The only way David Cameron is getting to power is by pointing out labour's faults. That's all well and good, but how can he prove he's going to do better?

It's all just ideologies, communism and socialism are perfect on paper but in reality, it's clear to see it doesn't work.

I'm afraid David Cameron doesn't need to prove he's better and come out with many policies, for a very long time, politics in Britain have just been the opposition party getting in once the public gets sick of the party in government. Rarely does it ever come down to things like "Policies". Michael Howard was the one with decent policies and look where that got him

[Jippz]

It's all just ideologies, communism and socialism are perfect on paper but in reality, it's clear to see it doesn't work.

I'm afraid David Cameron doesn't need to prove he's better and come out with many policies, for a very long time, politics in Britain have just been the opposition party getting in once the public gets sick of the party in government. Rarely does it ever come down to things like "Policies". Michael Howard was the one with decent policies and look where that got him

Yeah i completely agree. But I have to put these points forward, because i despise conservative. I couldn't vote for labour though because they are screwing things up. If i was old enough i'd vote socialist labour.
"My greatest achievement was new labour" - Margaret Thatcher

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yeah i completely agree. But I have to put these points forward, because i despise conservative. I couldn't vote for labour though because they are screwing things up. If i was old enough i'd vote socialist labour.
"My greatest achievement was new labour" - Margaret Thatcher

Why do you despise the conservativism yet support dangerous socialism may I ask?;- they saved the country from collapse under socialism which was rooting itself in our country. That probably was her greatest achievement, she destroyed socialism so much that Labour had to basically drop all of its core values to even seem electable.

[LuketheDuke]

Capitalisms a good system? Really? Hasnt this recession made people see what corruption it can lead to?

Socialisms given us the NHS and the opportunity for kids from working class backgrounds to go to Uni with funded support.

Both seem good ideas but power hungry morons twist the ideal into something its not. Blame the politicians not the concepts!

[-:Undertaker:-]

Capitalisms a good system? Really? Hasnt this recession made people see what corruption it can lead to?

Socialisms given us the NHS and the opportunity for kids from working class backgrounds to go to Uni with funded support.

Both seem good ideas but power hungry morons twist the ideal into something its not. Blame the politicians not the concepts!

I have explained why collapse is needed for new growth, for growth you need something to stimulate that growth, prices cannot rise forever otherwise currency losses its value. Corruption is more rife in socialist countrys, USSR, North Korea - look at the state of them, millions starved. The only good thing that 'socialism' produced was the NHS however i'd far rather have all the millions who died under socialism still alive than the NHS. You don't realise how lucky you are to live in a country like this compared to a socialist country.

In the words of Margaret Thatcher, would you rather the poor be poorer?

That is what socialism is, it doesnt work, never will and it is dead. We had a taste of socialism in this country in the 1970s, it led to power cuts, the United Kingdom losing influence, the economy in crisis, the country having to go to the IMF to beg for an emergency bailout, the unelected unions controlling the elected government, militantism like we saw in my home city of Liverpool. The country was crippled, more so than at any other point in its history.

[StefanWolves]

I have explained why collapse is needed for new growth, for growth you need something to stimulate that growth, prices cannot rise forever otherwise currency losses its value. Corruption is more rife in socialist countrys, USSR, North Korea - look at the state of them, millions starved. The only good thing that 'socialism' produced was the NHS however i'd far rather have all the millions who died under socialism still alive than the NHS. You don't realise how lucky you are to live in a country like this compared to a socialist country.

In the words of Margaret Thatcher, would you rather the poor be poorer?

That is what socialism is, it doesnt work, never will and it is dead. We had a taste of socialism in this country in the 1970s, it led to power cuts, the United Kingdom losing influence, the economy in crisis, the country having to go to the IMF to beg for an emergency bailout, the unelected unions controlling the elected government, militantism like we saw in my home city of Liverpool. The country was crippled, more so than at any other point in it
s history.

gosh.

stop turning every god damn thread into another god damned argument, this thread isn't about margret pissin thatcher lol.

anyway on topic, all this political stuff aside it's obviously democracy.

[-:Undertaker:-]

gosh.

stop turning every god damn thread into another god damned argument, this thread isn't about margret pissin thatcher lol.

anyway on topic, all this political stuff aside it's obviously democracy.

You are the one asking for a debate as you wanted in the last thread hence why your trying to lure me int again right now, as for my post and the subject itself; it has everything to do with Margaret Thatcher and history, as we are discussing political systems. The 1970s to 1980s were a battle between socialism and capitalism in the United Kingdom so it has everything to do with the topic. Luke made the point about the recession, I explained it - thats the whole point of a forum, to discuss and debate.

[StefanWolves]

You are the one asking for a debate as you wanted in the last thread hence why your trying to lure me int again right now, as for my post and the subject itself; it has everything to do with Margaret Thatcher and history, as we are discussing political systems. The 1970s to 1980s were a battle between socialism and capitalism in the United Kingdom so it has everything to do with the topic. Luke made the point about the recession, I explained it - thats the whole point of a forum, to discuss and debate.

you dont discuss and debate, you try to ram untrue facts and crap that people arent bothered about down peoples throats.

the sooner you learn that you can't brainwash people, the better.

and the true fact is that i can't be bothered to read half of your posts, i read the first line and think oh god i can't be bothered reading this bull, you make it perfectly clear what you're saying in the first line but then you try and back it up with complete and utter nonsense.