Trump signs bill allowing states to withhold funding from abortion services

[lemons]

landon well and truly embarrassed himself

[Landon]

Haha how? I just said Hitler killed kids looool so many liberals triggered. Mission accomplished I'd say.

[FlyingJesus]

A foetus is not a child. If you genuinely believe that it somehow is then it also follows that every single ovum and sperm is a child, and in that case every time a woman has a period instead of getting herself pregnant that's murder, and every time a male bashes one out or goes without having sex long enough for sperm to die is absolute genocide
A tree is not a book, a raw chicken is not a healthy meal, pebble is not a mountain... things are not defined by their potential, but by what they actually are

But hey, who needs facts when you can just call everyone who disagrees with you a liberal and backpedal every time you're proven to be inextricably wrong

[Landon]

A foetus is not a child. If you genuinely believe that it somehow is then it also follows that every single ovum and sperm is a child, and in that case every time a woman has a period instead of getting herself pregnant that's murder

Take for instance an egg from a woman. It's not murder if it is solely the egg. If it is the fertilized egg, it is murder. Because the egg has been met with the sperm and a child will form considering there is no interruptions like the reality of abortion. An egg alone being discarded had no potential to become a child anyways unless it is fertilized.

But hey, who needs facts when you can just call everyone who disagrees with you a liberal and backpedal every time you're proven to be inextricably wrong

Yeah. Or by calling them an absolute cretin or idiot as well.

[FlyingJesus]

Calls 'em like I sees 'em. You're back to calling me a liberal in your sig I see fun times. Is that because I have the potential to become one?

And you're still calling things by their potential instead of what they actually are, and besides that a fertilised egg has no potential to become a child without a billion different things that occur along the way - a womb isn't just a bag of air where things happen by magic. Do you also think that a child is an adult?

[Landon]

Calls 'em like I sees 'em. You're back to calling me a liberal in your sig I see fun times. Is that because I have the potential to become one?

And you're still calling things by their potential instead of what they actually are, and besides that a fertilised egg has no potential to become a child without a billion different things that occur along the way - a womb isn't just a bag of air where things happen by magic.

No, I'm simply countering what you said. You're saying that since I believe a fetus is a child, I also probably believe that menstruation or ejaculation are both murder which is simply a conflict because an egg and a sperm on their own are not a human in its developmental stages and are not a child without them coinciding together lol.

Do you also think that a child is an adult?

What point are you trying to get at? To answer your question, no?

[FlyingJesus]

You're saying that since I believe a fetus is a child, I also probably believe that menstruation or ejaculation are both murder

No I'm not, I'm saying that if you believe the former then logically the latter MUST follow, and if you don't think so then your entire argument falls apart

What point are you trying to get at? To answer your question, no?

That (as I keep saying) things are not defined by their potential

[Landon]

No I'm not, I'm saying that if you believe the former then logically the latter MUST follow, and if you don't think so then your entire argument falls apart

That doesn't make sense though. As an example if I were to say that since you believe in abortion even in the last stages when a baby can live on its own before birth then you certainly must believe in executing those on death row, what would you say?

Keep in mind that I don't know what you believe specifically on that comparison. But logically, according to what you have told me, you would believe in the other if you believe in killing inmates. Both are murder.

[dbgtz]

Haha how? I just said Hitler killed kids looool so many liberals triggered. Mission accomplished I'd say.

No, you said he targeted kids based on their age, which is false.

[Landon]

No, you said he targeted kids based on their age, which is false.

He did though. Kids couldn't do the labor that he demanded so they were killed. You had a good chance of not being killed immediately if you were 13-18 because you could be subjected to forced labor. So yes, it was very age targeted.