I'll just leave this here...

~~Laggings~~ · 23-10-2009, 10:10 PM

If you beat me using MY method I get 1/4th credit

And you can do the same thing for 3 seater sofa and such. It seems that once there's something in the air above the ditch though, even after you glitch, it's impossible to put more in it.

Adding to the thread, I was doing this for eKyle yesterday, and it took roughly 1/3rd the regular time as it normally does.

(Flat Stack On Floor Using 5+ Items)
Instead of wasting all the time of raising them on rollers, you can use this method:
Put ditch down.
Put 4 rollers facing ditch.
Put your furni on rollers, let it fall on ditch.
Z shelf to the height you want on rollers, and roll second item.
Ect ect ect.

It's not really time saving with 4 items, but 5+ it really saves time.

In reply to above post:
Not really, unless you found another furni that had the same properties as a ditch. I was thinking of a gate, but you'd only be able to put 1 sofa inside the gate, which would defeat the purpose. I would assume that any item like the ditch would work.

LoveToStack · 23-10-2009, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Verrou

Do you know of a method that doesn't need ditches, because ditches on AU are selling for 2-3CS at the moment :S

The way they've been using to stack any number of sofas on AU for years, the one we don't know, is much much much more efficient. You don't need to reload the room or any of that pollava. All these elaborate stacks involving casinos don't require people to reload the room and wait 60 seconds every time they want to put in another sofa.
Thats pretty much the only thing I'm concerned with - an efficient way to stack sofas. This ditch thing is all well and good and it's a final solution for normal stacking, bars etc, but it doesn't cut it for sofas in my opinion but if we could work out the 'old' way they do it, then apply it to your ditch method we could have a perfect way of stacking sofas. As it stands I just don't like the way we stack sofas, it's not good enough.

Originally Posted by Laggings

If you beat me using MY method I get 1/4th credit

And you can do the same thing for 3 seater sofa and such. It seems that once there's something in the air above the ditch though, even after you glitch, it's impossible to put more in it.

Adding to the thread, I was doing this for eKyle yesterday, and it took roughly 1/3rd the regular time as it normally does.

(Flat Stack On Floor Using 5+ Items)
Instead of wasting all the time of raising them on rollers, you can use this method:
Put ditch down.
Put 4 rollers facing ditch.
Put your furni on rollers, let it fall on ditch.
Z shelf to the height you want on rollers, and roll second item.
Ect ect ect.

It's not really time saving with 4 items, but 5+ it really saves time.

In reply to above post:
Not really, unless you found another furni that had the same properties as a ditch. I was thinking of a gate, but you'd only be able to put 1 sofa inside the gate, which would defeat the purpose. I would assume that any item like the ditch would work.

The point you made about stuff not going in after there's something in the air is correct. However you can put a second layer of ditches in at the same height as the highest sofa (this is what I was doing tonight) and keep repeating that as you go up. Doing that does let you continue to put things in even as you go up higher. However there's still the chance of it just not 'glitching' for whatever reason. But using your logic of shoving in as many ditches as you can, it seems to increase the chances of one overlapping the sofa. I didn't get further than 3 sofas tonight, managed to get a fourth layer but only on one side, but I reckon you might be able to get a lot more if you had a huge amount of ditches - even so that's a terrible way of doing it.
By the way the point you made about things being able to be rolled on to ditches is something we already knew, but apparently you didn't. That's why Verrou said when he released this "use it just as you would use coins or plates". And that's why I called it a final solution for bar stacking - you can flat stack bars just as easily as you would do with coins without compromising how a room looks e.g. raising them up. That's the real benefit of this ditch imo.

Cannonman.R.C · 23-10-2009, 11:13 PM

Hmm, i could give you all the biggest hint, but id rather lets you discuss it more

Almost any stack can be done with Ditches, just cant do, Pixel stacking, Or Rollers on rugs/Gates.

Guess all we need now is a 1 pixel height Item.

~~Laggings~~ · 24-10-2009, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by LoveToStack

The point you made about stuff not going in after there's something in the air is correct. However you can put a second layer of ditches in at the same height as the highest sofa (this is what I was doing tonight) and keep repeating that as you go up. Doing that does let you continue to put things in even as you go up higher. However there's still the chance of it just not 'glitching' for whatever reason. But using your logic of shoving in as many ditches as you can, it seems to increase the chances of one overlapping the sofa. I didn't get further than 3 sofas tonight, managed to get a fourth layer but only on one side, but I reckon you might be able to get a lot more if you had a huge amount of ditches - even so that's a terrible way of doing it.
By the way the point you made about things being able to be rolled on to ditches is something we already knew, but apparently you didn't. That's why Verrou said when he released this "use it just as you would use coins or plates". And that's why I called it a final solution for bar stacking - you can flat stack bars just as easily as you would do with coins without compromising how a room looks e.g. raising them up. That's the real benefit of this ditch imo.

How do you shovel, oh what, I see.

And I knew the method I said from the start, but I thought everyone knew the Sofa>Ditch stack too, but as was posted just a few posts ago, someone didn't, so I thought I'd atleast give a somewhat noob guide to the obvious

I got a :rude:LOAD of ditches, and I'll try to do that tonight.

~~Laggings~~ · 24-10-2009, 02:08 AM

Managed this:

Everytime I get to 4 it fails.

~~Laggings~~ · 24-10-2009, 02:52 AM

Triple post, merge if you're reading mod.

I spent the last 3-4 hours testing. This is what I've come up with:

For some reason, ditches tend to change randomly what height they will be 'glitchable' at.
Some ditches are only glitchable at 4 z's up, some are only at 2, and some are at 0, ect ect.
Reloading room won't change that, as I said, they 'randomly' change.
I havn't been able to get a full 4 sofas stacked, and I have no idea why.
Using rollers to put the z shelves/ditches in won't change anything.
Stacking with tables/goldbars don't change it either.
I've had more sucess by keeping the original 2 ditches and z's down for each zShelf up. Like: Ditch/Sofa/Z/Ditch/Sofa/Z/Ditch/Sofa/Z = Keeping all of that down and not reusing it for the higher up stacks.
Putting 75 ditches down on each z shelf won't guarentee you'll get any higher.
I've seen only 1/10th of all the ditches I have able to stack above 3 z's high.

I hope this helps anyone trying to figure this out.