Bring Casino's Back Petition

[James]

Is there no end to your stupidity. You're just in a mad rage because you're WRONG.

LOOOL you think just because more people say something is right that means it is... you are a joke. I don't care how many people think themselves it is "Gambling" I've explained in about 5 posts previously how the definition is absolute YOU CANNOT CHANGE IT. I don't care how messed up your own opinion is, betting with virtual goods such as coins do not directly constitute as an object with financial worth THEREFORE IT IS NOT GAMBLING, THE END, YOU LOSE.

Habbo's definition of Gambling is placing or accepting bets on the outcome of a specific event. Betting on horse, betting on habbos, even betting on what colour the grass will be... it's all gambling. So you're still in the wrong. Sometimes you just have to accept that.

Thank you for saving me the time and quoting the rule myself as I would have done, you're really shooting yourself in the foot. You said the following:

"So with that, please explain to me how what you are doing is "legal" and not gambling??"

Yes I did, congratulations. You can read.

Ok I will with the quote you provided.

"Using furni that randomizes games with the possibility to place bets"

As I've already explained but clearly you have not read correctly, my game is 100% non randomized. e.g. for someone as idiotic as you, doesn't involve any random elements. It is therefore considered player skill and LEGAL.

You're twisting Habbo's words. You said yourself you have obstacles in the horse racing room you use. that's furniture is it not? & it has to be random otherwise there's no point betting on it as people will just bet the one that wins. So it may not be exact randomising items, like dice, etc, but the random aspect is still there with the way you place the obstacles.

LOOL do you not understand that because habbo have given the trade pass back they also agree with my arguement, well to be honest there's nothing to agree with. IT IS FACT. Only an idiot like you couldn't understand that.

You know what they say, when you run out of valid points, you turn to insults.

I speak for myself that if everyone in that spoiler shares the same view you do then they too are either honestly mistaken or just fools.

Or you're not quite understanding.

OH AND BETTING IS BACK BECAUSE I FOUND A WAY TO BRING IT BACK, DEAL WITH IT.

We'll see how long it lasts

[Benz]

Habbo's definition of Gambling is placing or accepting bets on the outcome of a specific event. Betting on horse, betting on habbos, even betting on what colour the grass will be... it's all gambling. So you're still in the wrong. Sometimes you just have to accept that.

LOL you're just making stuff up now. There are three things completely wrong with what you just said.

1. The legal definition of Gambling is external to habbo they can't make up what it is.
2. Habbo doesn't have a definition for Gambling, in-fact I challenge you to find a single reference to it in habbo's rules. GG in-itself
3. You said: "Habbo's definition of Gambling is placing or accepting bets on the outcome of a specific event"
please tell me where you found this because it is a LIE, you have now made up facts to try and support your failed argument.
Habbo's real policy on betting is as you quoted before: "Using furni that randomizes games with the possibility to place bets can get you into trouble." broadly speaking.

Yes I did, congratulations. You can read.

I was just repeating what you said so everyone could see my response and realise how idiotic you are.

You're twisting Habbo's words. You said yourself you have obstacles in the horse racing room you use. that's furniture is it not? & it has to be random otherwise there's no point betting on it as people will just bet the one that wins. So it may not be exact randomising items, like dice, etc, but the random aspect is still there with the way you place the obstacles.

I'm not twisting anything, habbo has stated that in order to be breaking a rule an element of randomisation must be present when taking bets. That is very clear.
I do use objects yes, that is furniture, yes. Why you say it has to be random.. I'm confused? It doesn't have to be anything. The wired on the objects is to move back and forward every 2 seconds and not randomly, otherwise you'd have a very valid point. So are you ready to admit you got that completely wrong?

You know what they say, when you run out of valid points, you turn to insults.

I do agree with you here normally, I just get so frustrated with people when I'm arguing things which cannot be disputed because they are absolute.

[James]

LOL you're just making stuff up now. There are three things completely wrong with what you just said.

1. The legal definition of Gambling is external to habbo they can't make up what it is.
2. Habbo doesn't have a definition for Gambling, in-fact I challenge you to find a single reference to it in habbo's rules. GG in-itself
3. You said: "Habbo's definition of Gambling is placing or accepting bets on the outcome of a specific event"
please tell me where you found this because it is a LIE, you have now made up facts to try and support your failed argument.
Habbo's real policy on betting is as you quoted before: "Using furni that randomizes games with the possibility to place bets can get you into trouble." broadly speaking.



I was just repeating what you said so everyone could see my response and realise how idiotic you are.

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I'm not twisting anything, habbo has stated that in order to be breaking a rule an element of randomisation must be present when taking bets. That is very clear.
I do use objects yes, that is furniture, yes. Why you say it has to be random.. I'm confused? It doesn't have to be anything. The wired on the objects is to move back and forward every 2 seconds and not randomly, otherwise you'd have a very valid point. So are you ready to admit you got that completely wrong?


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I do agree with you here normally, I just get so frustrated with people when I'm arguing things which cannot be disputed because they are absolute.

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Gunna head to bed so won't reply to this thread again. I'll let you do you & I'll leave you to it, but best of luck with the petition & keeping your trade pass.

[Reality]

Firstly, if you've found a way of doing it great, then why the need to make a petition? Just causes arguments like seen above.
Secondly, I don't know how you can take it upon yourself to make a judgement of calling someone "idiotic" and "messed up" just because of a negative response to a thread...
If you want to call someone "idiotic" or "messed up" then at least get to know them first, instead of you pointlessly "mad rage'ing' because you're WRONG" about the whole negative responses. If you make a thread expect positive and negative responses otherwise, don't make them at all...

Is there no end to your stupidity. You're just in a mad rage because you're WRONG.

LOOOL you think just because more people say something is right that means it is... you are a joke. I don't care how many people think themselves it is "Gambling" I've explained in about 5 posts previously how the definition is absolute YOU CANNOT CHANGE IT. I don't care how messed up your own opinion is, betting with virtual goods such as coins do not directly constitute as an object with financial worth THEREFORE IT IS NOT GAMBLING, THE END, YOU LOSE.

Thank you for saving me the time and quoting the rule myself as I would have done, you're really shooting yourself in the foot. You said the following:

"So with that, please explain to me how what you are doing is "legal" and not gambling??"

Ok I will with the quote you provided.

"Using furni that randomizes games with the possibility to place bets"

As I've already explained but clearly you have not read correctly, my game is 100% non randomized. e.g. for someone as idiotic as you, doesn't involve any random elements. It is therefore considered player skill and LEGAL.

LOOL do you not understand that because habbo have given the trade pass back they also agree with my arguement, well to be honest there's nothing to agree with. IT IS FACT. Only an idiot like you couldn't understand that.

I speak for myself that if everyone in that spoiler shares the same view you do then they too are either honestly mistaken or just fools.

OH AND BETTING IS BACK BECAUSE I FOUND A WAY TO BRING IT BACK, DEAL WITH IT.

[Benz]

Firstly, if you've found a way of doing it great, then why the need to make a petition? Just causes arguments like seen above.
Secondly, I don't know how you can take it upon yourself to make a judgement of calling someone "idiotic" and "messed up" just because of a negative response to a thread...
If you want to call someone "idiotic" or "messed up" then at least get to know them first, instead of you pointlessly "mad rage'ing' because you're WRONG" about the whole negative responses. If you make a thread expect positive and negative responses otherwise, don't make them at all...

I agree with you, however as I explained in this particular thread I found myself repeating myself over and over with something which cannot be argued - the definition of a word.. I was lost with what to do next to get it through some peoples heads and I'm not even going to go into depth on the conversation with Viba, he even made up his own definition for a word which doesn't even exist on the habbo site.. I mean I don't need to get to know someone to know that's is idiotic, sorry.

[Hannah]

I'm sorry but you're calling people stupid because they aren't seeing your point (which is wrong), but you refuse to even acknowledge theirs. Where is the logic?

Habbo are not going to accept gambling, no matter how much you huff and puff about it. Get over it and leave the thread be before you dig yourself a hole that even a ladder won't get you out of.

Also, trying to work your way around the no gambling rule will not end well for you - but good luck with your endeavours. :-)

[Zak]

OH AND BETTING IS BACK BECAUSE I FOUND A WAY TO BRING IT BACK, DEAL WITH IT.

There are plenty of ways to bet in Habbo without the need for dice. I've had a room for a while that doesn't use dice but you could certainly place bets on the outcome. It doesn't mean that the concept won't be banned though if Habbo catch word of what is going on.

Unfortunately Habbo staff aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer and it may take them a few years.. lol

[IWishIWasCool]

''hello i would like to start a petition so i can scam kids on a game built for little kids lol''

[Benz]

I'm sorry but you're calling people stupid because they aren't seeing your point (which is wrong), but you refuse to even acknowledge theirs. Where is the logic?

Habbo are not going to accept gambling, no matter how much you huff and puff about it. Get over it and leave the thread be before you dig yourself a hole that even a ladder won't get you out of.

Also, trying to work your way around the no gambling rule will not end well for you - but good luck with your endeavours. :-)

You can't argue with a definition, I don't care how but hurt all you lot are over casinos. Fact is fact. I can only acknowledge their points when they make sense. I mean the last person I replied to downright made up his own definition and said habbo considered gambling as such.. it's just a lie and quite frankly a-lot of other posts have been as-well. If this was a court room I would have won this case by now.

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There are plenty of ways to bet in Habbo without the need for dice. I've had a room for a while that doesn't use dice but you could certainly place bets on the outcome. It doesn't mean that the concept won't be banned though if Habbo catch word of what is going on.

Unfortunately Habbo staff aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer and it may take them a few years.. lol

I mean I've had several successful appeals in which Habbo tell me what I am doing (taking bets) is perfectly legal. If you're trying to say they can always change the rules around it, thought that was a bit obvious haha.

[Brayden]

I don't support this but if you want to bring that kind of stuff back you can try.

Any idiot willing to waste real money on virtual "Credits" then waste those Credits in a virtual casino can just go ahead and do it.