Should all individuals without work be allowed to draw welfare?

[Landon]

This is quite a sensitive topic because multiple people are poor and have to experience this for themselves. Many thanks to those that want to discuss!

The welfare system in the United States is severely corrupted. I cannot speak for the UK because I haven't researched your system. But very lazy people here are drawing welfare (tax payer money) and proceed to go out and buy weed/drugs/liquor instead of paying for much needed food, a house, providing for their family, etc. Here's the problem. I don't want to be paying for someone else who feels the need to exploit the system. Yes, I work, and yes, part of my paycheck every month goes out to pay for those people.

Now the other side of my point of view. I am so very well aware that there are people out there trying as hard as they can to get by and need some financial support. That's great, that's where I want to put my money. But it's that minority that messes it up for everyone, right? As a caring person, I sincerely try to donate whenever I can to people that need it the most. But I sure as heck don't want to be paying for the lazy that don't want to work.

Besides my opinion on the issue, let's look at the other - the liberal viewpoint. There are many out there that think all people are entitled to money - everyone helps each other and we start to drift towards the middle class - everyone, rich or poor. The corruption in the system is very minor and makes no difference to the validity of the welfare system: everyone should receive money, no matter their case.

In fact, many American liberals stood by Bernie Sanders, a socialist, who said that college would be free and the welfare system would be ramped up so that everyone can have a chance.

The discussion is yours. Do you think that all individuals without work should be allowed to draw welfare from the taxpayer? If so, why, and if not, why not? Discuss!

[scottish]

I don't understand the whole whining 'oh I pay tax and I don't want to be paying for these people who sit on welfare' crap. If the money wasn't used for welfare on unemployed it would be used for something different and either case you're not going to see that money. So if welfare stopped tomorrow you're not suddenly going to pay less tax. So it makes no difference.

Your tax pays for government spending, that is a small percentage of that.

I think there should be a lot more checks in the UK to verify people are actively looking for work, regular drug tests, random house checks for drug alcohol etc and they should be required to provide the job centre with proof of how they spent their money. If a significant amount of this has gone on drugs and alcohol then their benefits should be stopped.

[Landon]

I don't understand the whole whining 'oh I pay tax and I don't want to be paying for these people who sit on welfare' crap. If the money wasn't used for welfare on unemployed it would be used for something different and either case you're not going to see that money. So if welfare stopped tomorrow you're not suddenly going to pay less tax. So it makes no difference.

Your tax pays for government spending, that is a small percentage of that.

I understand this, but the concept of paying for someone else doesn't change. I'd rather pay the same amount and it go to building our roads, infrastructure, etc. than pay towards a corrupted system, right?

I think there should be a lot more checks in the UK to verify people are actively looking for work, regular drug tests, random house checks for drug alcohol etc and they should be required to provide the job centre with proof of how they spent their money. If a significant amount of this has gone on drugs and alcohol then their benefits should be stopped.

Nothing but agreement here. Wish that the United States actually looked into this.

[hungryfront]

I think if you've got a valid reason like a disability then you absolutely should get benefits/welfare.

If you've tried your hardest and can't get a job, it's a grey area. I would say if you were excluded a certain amount of times at school (basically you're known to misbehave) then you should be denied.

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[Landon]

If you've tried your hardest and can't get a job, it's a grey area.

Exactly! Really tough to figure out how long is a "long time" or "how hard" people are looking.