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    [quote='[ALEX];4590356']
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    But did you know what Ton Blair DID do? He stopped the conflict in Northern Ireland. And dya know how important that is? The IRA are no longer armed (or so they say) and we haven't been bombed by the IRA in years. I'd say that was an INCREDIBLE thing.
    The conflict in Northern Ireland was going to end whether he was their or not. The above things I have mentioned especially the Iraq conflict outweigh the Northern Ireland claim by miles.



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    Quote Originally Posted by [ALEX] View Post

    The conflict in Northern Ireland was going to end whether he was their or not. The above things I have mentioned especially the Iraq conflict outweigh the Northern Ireland claim by miles.
    I disagree. Though I think it's ridiculous how much debt this country is in. I believe we're the 2nd most debt-filled country to the USA (France being 3rd). But we've been in debt for ages, just it's more ridiculous now. I'm gonna move to Switzerland when i'm older so I'm not here when the economy collapses.
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    I disagree. Though I think it's ridiculous how much debt this country is in. I believe we're the 2nd most debt-filled country to the USA (France being 3rd). But we've been in debt for ages, just it's more ridiculous now. I'm gonna move to Switzerland when i'm older so I'm not here when the economy collapses.
    Labour have spent and spent but have not saved. Our country was stable under Major after the fixing of the economy under Thatcher - Most of that has now been partly destroyed by this governments' absurd spending.

    Oh and I agree, I think i'll be out of here within the next 20 years because every aspect of the country is just getting worse and worse. It'll probably be United States of America, Canada, New Zealand or Austrialia for me.



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    [quote=-:Undertaker:-;4590294]
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    expensive war which has torn apart hundreds of thousands of families and destroyed a once stable country
    You refer to Iraq YET again in a topic which has nothing to do with it. You're foolish:rolleyes:
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    The conflict in Northern Ireland was going to end whether he was their or not. The above things I have mentioned especially the Iraq conflict outweigh the Northern Ireland claim by miles.
    Indeed, the conflict in N Ireland was pretty small by the time Tony Blair came to see it. Tony Blair simply got all the credit out of the peace deal, he played a very little part in it but was the 'Public face' to it. However he did take a risk cause no doubt if the deal fell through he would also be blamed for it all even though he was hardly involved.

    Don't give me all that rubbish 'it's difficult being PM' - You have to be a natural leader and prepared for lots of stress and difficult decision's every day if your going into an election, it's simply no excuse. It may well be a difficult job, but we're meant to elect the person who will make good decision's for their ENTIRE term and can cope with the job. Clearly the public got it wrong three elections in a row. The PM also has loads of department leaders and adviser's, he just simply says yes and no, I wouldn't give a PM all that much sympathy.

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    You refer to Iraq YET again in a topic which has nothing to do with it. You're foolish:rolleyes:
    I was replying to Clowgon who said Tony Blair has done a great job for this country. If you could read you would see I posted about various other things Tony Blair has done wrong. Ask yourself why you feel the need to somehow ignore the Iraq topic. Iraq was Labour's biggest and most serious wrong-doing so why would I mention our country being in debt but not mention the war? (Also to mention the fact a war costs billions of pounds)

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    I was replying to Clowgon who said Tony Blair has done a great job for this country. If you could read you would see I posted about various other things Tony Blair has done wrong. Ask yourself why you feel the need to somehow ignore the Iraq topic. Iraq was Labour's biggest and most serious wrong-doing so why would I mention our country being in debt but not mention the war? (Also to mention the fact a war costs billions of pounds)

    Who really is foolish?
    You are. You should be banned of this forum tbh. You cause provokearguments. He said Blair was good. You come back with this crap yet again.
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    You are. You should be banned of this forum tbh. You cause provokearguments. He said Blair was good. You come back with this crap yet again.
    Hahahaha getting angry now are we? - It's called debating mate, if you can't take it without getting a period then I suggest you leave.

    He said Blair was good, I said he was bad and gave examples on why I think he was bad. Would you rather I just reply with 'he is bad'.

    It isn't crap! It happened and for some reason you choose to ignore it, perhaps because Tony Blair is undefendable!



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    Hahahaha getting angry now are we? - It's called debating mate, if you can't take it without getting a period then I suggest you leave.

    He said Blair was good, I said he was bad and gave examples on why I think he was bad. Would you rather I just reply with 'he is bad'.

    It isn't crap! It happened and for some reason you choose to ignore it, perhaps because Tony Blair is undefendable!

    Anger? Lol at you. Now you know why I think your a utter fool.

    I agree with the Iraq war, and you know my reasons why. I just think you arguments have no relevents to about 90% of topics under discussion and you don't let other express there views without having a total fit.
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    Anger? Lol at you. Now you know why I think your a utter fool.

    I agree with the Iraq war, and you know my reasons why. I just think you arguments have no relevents to about 90% of topics under discussion and you don't let other express there views without having a total fit.
    What I said is relevent.

    Tony Blair has done a great Job for this country.
    Then I replied with what Tony Blair has done wrong..

    Don't lecture me on being rude, who was the one who said HHGS is crap? - If you believe Tony Blair was a good politician then your in 'coo coo' land, firstly you thought he was against the EU and thought he was great because of that then I tell you he wasn't and he's still a great MP? ~ Tony Blair and his government took this country into debt, put taxes at bizzare levels leaving families struggling, took this country into an illegal, expensive war which has torn apart hundreds of thousands of families and destroyed a once stable country, he has handed more power over to the EU more than ever before, he has surrended our EU rebate and has let the spread of socialist political correctness take a firm grip on our country - Great job?, I think not.


    See? - It's rather simple.

    Oh and I do let others express views, infact i'd actually prefer you to debate your views against mine rather than nag on about how relevant the debate is which is what you tend to do quite often these days.



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