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    Quote Originally Posted by Intersocial View Post
    For a party that was practically unheard of five years ago, I would say it's certainly impressive.

    Not absolutely shocking, but nevertheless still 'an achievement'.
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    Other things:

    - Michael Gove is Justice Secretary..... no words.
    - If Cameron goes through with his EU referendum promise I will be impressed.

    The swing in itself isn't surprising, given that they came from nothing. I suspect in the next election the reverse swing will be huge.

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    Regarding the protests, people holding SWP sigs. They've always been a joke.


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    I don't think any of these protesters actually read any manifestos or anything.

    Labour promised £2.5bn to the NHS, Conservative promised £8bn, but yeah they're totes closing it down...
    Labour promised no changes to the rate of basic income tax, Conservatives promised to eliminate income tax for low earners, but obviously they're only wanting to help the ultra-rich...
    Labour promised to extend free childcare from 15 to 25 hours, Conservatives promised the extension to go to 30 hours, but clearly hate giving things away to people who need it...

    Plus of course there's the fact that "privatisation" of the NHS is not about closing anything down as the opposition are trying to claim, it's about allowing specialists to do a better job of things while still under the yoke of the government system, rather than attempting to control absolutely everything centrally. Delegation is like the first thing you learn to do as any kind of leader
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    I'm more surprised by the 2 or 3 green patches on that map. Where did they come second?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inseriousity. View Post
    I'm more surprised by the 2 or 3 green patches on that map. Where did they come second?
    I know they came 2nd in Bristol West (BBC exit poll had them down to come first), not sure where else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingJesus View Post
    I don't think any of these protesters actually read any manifestos or anything.

    Labour promised £2.5bn to the NHS, Conservative promised £8bn, but yeah they're totes closing it down...
    Labour promised no changes to the rate of basic income tax, Conservatives promised to eliminate income tax for low earners, but obviously they're only wanting to help the ultra-rich...
    Labour promised to extend free childcare from 15 to 25 hours, Conservatives promised the extension to go to 30 hours, but clearly hate giving things away to people who need it...

    Plus of course there's the fact that "privatisation" of the NHS is not about closing anything down as the opposition are trying to claim, it's about allowing specialists to do a better job of things while still under the yoke of the government system, rather than attempting to control absolutely everything centrally. Delegation is like the first thing you learn to do as any kind of leader
    oh and don't forget how we're going to lose all our rights because torys are scrapping the humans rights act!!!1 lets jsut leave out the fact they want to change the system, not actually take away our rights... didnt labour want to change the act too?


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    @FlyingJesus; there's loads of Labour mongs on my Facebook harping on about the NHS.

    Seems to escape them that Labour really started that privatising the NHS ball rolling when it brought in PFI schemes.

    @buttons; and aye I saw that today. I remain sceptical that they'll just copy it where as I would like to see it just scrapped. But time will tell what differences.
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    To be fair the HRA could still exist as it's reasonably well written. The only issue is that it is backed by an organisation/convention which tries to make a one size fits all system which doesn't work, particularly when extremes cause problems e.g. terrorism. It needs re-interpreting and actually there to protect humans that act human.

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