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    Exclamation Government to ask Queen to prorogue Parliament

    Excellent news!

    We voted 3 years ago. Get on with it!
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    Absolutely hilarious watching the people who've kicked numerous conventions over, now going ballistic that a standard convention is being deployed.

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    Even if Grieve and the corrupt Speaker Bercow were able to engineer a Standing Order 28 and seize the timetable of the House of Commons from the government (again, driving a coach and horses through convention) then the government could bombard the bill in the Commons and the Lords with amendments to slow its progress. Finally, if it were to then pass both houses in the (now) very limited time - Her Majesty's Government is entitled to instruct The Queen to use the Royal Veto on the legislation.

    In short, if Parliament really wants to stop No Deal then it must remove the government *and* find the numbers to replace it.
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    Cracking news. Well done Boris.
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    I was avoiding alcohol but I may have a couple tonight in celebration.

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    Apparently Number 10 is looking at other tricks to deploy to obstruct and use up parliamentary time.

    These include:

    - Creating new Bank Holidays in September/October as Parliament cannot sit during a Bank Holiday.
    - Hold an Emergency Budget to take up days of parliamentary timetable.
    - Create dozens of awkward amendments to bills to delay and drag for time.
    - Have Lords filibuster any bills that make it through so they die before the 9th of September (prorogation).
    - Potentially flood the Lords with new peers if the any bill looks likely to succeed.
    - If a Bill is successful, have the PM advise the Queen to refuse to grant Royal Assent.


    And if a General Election is triggered in the coming days and weeks, here is the current state of play.


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    so glad were leaving the undemocractic eu

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    Election klaxon.

    And more on Dominic Cumming's involvement with Whitehall's No Deal planning ramping up. Plus a BBC NewsNight clip below of which four guests spelling out what they think is most likely to happen, although I have posted the one I think is most realistic out of the four.

    I also found out something interesting today which shows how little time/options Remainers now have left.

    The Fixed-Term Parliament Act (FTPA) gives the opposition 14 days in the event of a Vote of No Confidence (VoNC) to propose an alternative government that can command the House of Commons. I have already touched on that. However what I didn't know, and what I was overlooking, was that with prorogation this still applies. In other words, if next week when the Commons returns the opposition hold a VoNC and win - they only have a matter of whatever days are left before the 9th of September to cobble together a government and have the Queen appoint it.

    After that, the 14 days will still be counting but Parliament won't be sitting. So what I am saying is, if they go for a VoNC next week and fail to remove the government then an election will be automatically triggered during prorogation and the Prime Minister will then be able to choose the date of that election, obviously after October 31st. This means Parliament will not sit again until the General Election takes place as it will have undergone automatic dissolution with the FTPA.

    That famous saying; "If you go for the King, you better make sure you don't miss."
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    It's quite refreshing to have a government with a strategy and not just waving a white flag. I'm interested to see whether the opposition will manage to push through their legislation in time. If I remember rightly, their last legislation was done super quick so it might be possible but that was with a government only feebly opposing it. Might be harder if this government will take more extraordinary lengths to slow things down
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