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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    that doesnt prove any kind of bias one way or another
    Given he just brushed aside the convention (twice) to allow them to do that, I would suggest it does.

    Speaker Bercow appears to think and act like he is the constitution. The recent clips say all there is to say really.
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    just to be clear, what is it you are suggesting he is biased towards

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    just to be clear, what is it you are suggesting he is biased towards
    Remain.

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    none of what you posted supports that claim though
    most of what you have posted is to do with the poor reasoning for prorouging parliament which has basically been proven to be for brexit (misleading the queen) and has actually been shot down in a court in scotland



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    none of what you posted supports that claim though
    most of what you have posted is to do with the poor reasoning for prorouging parliament which has basically been proven to be for brexit (misleading the queen) and has actually been shot down in a court in scotland


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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    none of what you posted supports that claim though
    Maybe you would like to tell us all then why Speaker Bercow has broken multiple conventions to back Remain tactics in the Commons?

    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz
    most of what you have posted is to do with the poor reasoning for prorouging parliament which has basically been proven to be for brexit (misleading the queen) and has actually been shot down in a court in scotland
    And was within in a court in England. Now it'll go to the Supreme Court.

    There is nothing in law that states prorogation cannot be political, as the English court pointed out last week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Maybe you would like to tell us all then why Speaker Bercow has broken multiple conventions to back Remain tactics in the Commons?
    such as?

    And was within in a court in England. Now it'll go to the Supreme Court.

    There is nothing in law that states prorogation cannot be political, as the English court pointed out last week.
    english law and scottish law is different so its irrelevant what the english court pointed out

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    such as?
    You keep asking and I keep saying.

    He handed the parliamentary timetable over to the opposition and then the opposition was able to pass legislation.

    Speaker Bercow himself said that conventions change. But seemingly only when HE decides they should.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz
    english law and scottish law is different so its irrelevant what the english court pointed out
    The British constitution though remember is a continuation of the Kingdom of England's constitution.

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    Here's the disgraceful Speaker now openly threatening the government.

    It now appears that John Bercow *is* the British constitution in the same way Mao Zedong's thoughts were how China was governed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    You keep asking and I keep saying.

    He handed the parliamentary timetable over to the opposition and then the opposition was able to pass legislation.

    Speaker Bercow himself said that conventions change. But seemingly only when HE decides they should.
    how does that show bias to remain when its in labours manifesto to leave
    perhaps if the conservatives didnt dump 30 or so of them because they acted against the whip (something many in government did themselves) theyd still be in a position to pass legislation

    The British constitution though remember is a continuation of the Kingdom of England's constitution.

    but that doesnt mean laws specific to england/wales take precedence over scottish laws in scotland (as far as im aware)
    if its illegal in one it would be illegal in both (again, as far as im aware)

    i dont know why youre linking that second thing given thats nothing to do with this

    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    Here's the disgraceful Speaker now openly threatening the government.

    It now appears that John Bercow *is* the British constitution in the same way Mao Zedong's thoughts were how China was governed.

    hes literally arguing for parliamentary sovereignty

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    how does that show bias to remain when its in labours manifesto to leave
    perhaps if the conservatives didnt dump 30 or so of them because they acted against the whip (something many in government did themselves) theyd still be in a position to pass legislation
    Labour's manifesto says to Leave, yet its MPs do the opposite.

    And the Tories lost their majority when Philip Lee MP defected just before the 21 were expelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz
    but that doesnt mean laws specific to england/wales take precedence over scottish laws in scotland (as far as im aware)
    if its illegal in one it would be illegal in both (again, as far as im aware)

    i dont know why youre linking that second thing given thats nothing to do with this
    British law takes precedence over Scottish, English, Welsh and Northern Irish law. But my point is that given the constitution is based on Common law and not Scots law, it is likely that the Supreme Court will take the same view as the English courts did. We don't govern via the courts.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz
    hes literally arguing for parliamentary sovereignty
    That's the problem - it isn't his job to 'argue' for anything other than act as a neutral Speaker for all sides of the House of Commons.
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