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    Exclamation Brexit Countdown to 11:00pm on the 31st January 2020

    Brexit Countdown

    Britain on-track to withdraw from the European Union at 11pm on the 31st January 2020





    A thread to follow the now-certain departure of Britain from the European Union in 45 days. Feel free to post.


    The EU Withdrawal Agreement is expected to come back to the House of Commons this Friday.




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    When I was in Germany a police officer made a joke about Brexit.. (rolleyes) At least he thought it was funny..

    The people have spoken, lets see what happens next..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak View Post
    When I was in Germany a police officer made a joke about Brexit.. (rolleyes) At least he thought it was funny..

    The people have spoken, lets see what happens next..
    Same here, always happens abroad.

    Never thought I would be floating along the River Nile on a raft in Uganda discussing Brexit with a Ugandan, two Britons and two Australians.



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    Great news here. Essentially the below means that EU law will be dismantled much more quickly. It'll still take years, but as a body of law it'll be taken apart continuously by both the government and the courts. Taking Back Control as promised by the Leave campaign in 2016.

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    The Withdrawal Bill passes second reading.

    It still has to go to the House of Lords in the New Year, than back to the House of Commons and Royal Assent... but this is practically it.

    Once this becomes Act, Britain will have passed the relevant legislation to end it's 46 years EU membership. I've waited over a decade for this.




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    glad we are leaving the unelected bureaucrats of the eu to replace them with our own unelected bureaucrats, nicky morgan and zac goldsmith

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    glad we are leaving the unelected bureaucrats of the eu to replace them with our own unelected bureaucrats, nicky morgan and zac goldsmith
    The (soon to be) Lord Goldsmith and The Baroness Morgan are peers of the realm, and are therefore parliamentarians not bureaucrats.



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    Quote Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:- View Post
    The (soon to be) Lord Goldsmith and The Baroness Morgan are peers of the realm, and are therefore parliamentarians not bureaucrats.
    ignoring that there's no justifiable reason for goldsmith to be in the lords having done nothing notable, they're both in cabinet so they are bureaucrats

    ignoring your pedantry too, your whole critique of the EU was theyre unelected and can't be voted out - goldsmith was literally voted out of his seat yet he still retains both a seat in parliament and a cabinet position. please do justify how this is ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbgtz View Post
    ignoring that there's no justifiable reason for goldsmith to be in the lords having done nothing notable, they're both in cabinet so they are bureaucrats
    I could think of more deserving people to be granted peerages, that is true.

    And no, wrong. They are in Parliament and are therefore parliamentarians. Bureaucrats work in Whitehall, not Parliament.

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    ignoring your pedantry too, your whole critique of the EU was theyre unelected and can't be voted out - goldsmith was literally voted out of his seat yet he still retains both a seat in parliament and a cabinet position. please do justify how this is ok
    I support the House of Lords and have no problem with some Cabinet ministers being from the upper house. This is nothing unusual, with The Lord Mandelson, The Lord Carrington and The Earl Home all serving in high office and sitting in the Cabinet. There's a few other examples in more junior office in recent history also, but those are the ones that spring to mind.

    You're misunderstanding my opposition to the European system with the British system. The European Commission does not come from the European Parliament, it comes from outside via appointment by member states and then approval by the European Parliament. Her Majesty's Government comes from Parliament, and derives its authority from election. Our ministers sit in Parliament, and mostly have constituencies where they are directly accountable.

    If you wanted a comparison in British history that is similar to the European system today, you would have to go right back to even before the Parliament Act (1911) which rightly trimmed the power of the House of Lords, back to when the Privy Council (mainly), Star Chamber and Witenagemot were appointed by the Sovereign as a body of bureaucrats to act as a government rather than coming from Parliament itself.

    Her Majesty's Government comes from inside Parliament, the European Commission comes from outside Parliament.



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    Actually, a more recent comparison one could make would be in the British Empire how colonial governments were at first chosen. Ministers, with the support of the Imperial Parliament, selected and appointed colonial governors and ministers who then ruled over the colonies. Those colonial bureaucracies acted as governments with wide-ranging powers defined in treaties - as the European Commission does - but without coming from a Parliament themselves.

    This changed as time went on, with more input from native royalty/chiefs/Dominion Parliaments, but still a similar method of appointment.
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