More / Better Moderators needed.

[Earthquake]

I myself like the idea of a council for the forum however there are a few things to consider and resolve before taking the idea on board and implementing it. This idea, if sucessful could also expand to other areas of Habbox such as rare values, habboxlive and any other community based departments.

1. Most ideas that are suggested in feedback forum are read and considered anyway (unless its like "FIRE HIM" or "FIRE HER").

2. Most ideas myself and the rest of management find useful to the rest of the community, implement within days/weeks after the thread was made. IE When the gender thing was wanted back, even if it was a mistake, it was done the same day or maybe a few days later. A council might slow this process down a lot if they all have to agree on things.

3. I think whoever we pick for the council, some will still not like what the council does and continue using the feedback forum to make threads and post in them very often.

4. Regarding moderation etc. Council members can't really do anything about this since they are not mods/smods/admins - they are regular members of the forum which means they cannot comment on how good the moderation/staff are as its not their place to and is unfair on the mods/smods/admins that work so hard then get attacked or degraded by the council just because the admin/smods/mod infracted them or whatever.

5. It seems that saurav or maybe others see this council as a way to get mods/smods/admins fired which is definitely not the case.

I do like the idea and I think if done properly and the members hand picked, the council should work out well especially if members are picked from different categories of the forum (ie users that post in the general category / games cat etc etc).

I will have a think about how to set it up and have a talk with sierk about it. The reason I didn't respond earlier on is because I felt like I should monitor the thread and see what others think, gathering the suggestions and noting them down before coming to a conclusion.

Thanks everyone for your time and feedback, very much appreciated.

---MAD---
General Manager & Forum Manager

We waited over a day for your reply. You replied. You owned the thread.

Another well told speech from ---MAD---

[---MAD---]

We waited over a day for your reply. You replied. You owned the thread.

Another well told speech from ---MAD---

I wouldn't call it a speech but ok .

[today]

I've actually repleid to your post in the private message MAD, i'll wait and see your reply.

Though thanks for actually reading and discussing it

[joshuar]

I think that the council would be good to discuss bigger issues of the forum from a users point of view. Or something which is bothering the users and is getting alot of attention (Without directing it at staff).

Things like the gender in post bit doesn't really require a full discussion as the AGMs didn't discuss it, it was just done.

If it is thought through properly then it could work very well

[Lycan]

I think that the council would be good to discuss bigger issues of the forum from a users point of view. Or something which is bothering the users and is getting alot of attention (Without directing it at staff).

Things like the gender in post bit doesn't really require a full discussion as the AGMs didn't discuss it, it was just done.

If it is thought through properly then it could work very well

earlier in the thread we already began discussing how it could be sorted and implimented/organised. i guess the 'ball' is in the hands on the managers / sirek now to agree to or not.

[---MAD---]

I think that the council would be good to discuss bigger issues of the forum from a users point of view. Or something which is bothering the users and is getting alot of attention (Without directing it at staff).

Things like the gender in post bit doesn't really require a full discussion as the AGMs didn't discuss it, it was just done.

If it is thought through properly then it could work very well

I agree .

[today]

I think that the council would be good to discuss bigger issues of the forum from a users point of view. Or something which is bothering the users and is getting alot of attention (Without directing it at staff).

Things like the gender in post bit doesn't really require a full discussion as the AGMs didn't discuss it, it was just done.

If it is thought through properly then it could work very well

Yes, as i said in the pm to MAD,

2) Of course idea's such as that wouldnt need any talking of as its rather easy to do, however idea's such as the 'blog' system for example that could of been discussed in full detail, the good and bad points then you would have the final say, this would give a good discussion of the idea and showing both points to the idea.

4) I agree, the council memebrs would NOT be staff, they'll simply just have a private forum to view they'll not get any staff permissions as its not a official staff job, unless stated otherwise. Thus having no say in moderation, unless a new 'change' was in effect.

5) Yes, as i said in my last point the council would not be a staff group and not get any extra features on the forum apart from the private forum. Having the council job would not give you any extra chance of moderation jobs.

[Sammeth.]

Im glad my off topic suggestion has snowballed in the hands of Saurav, Hollywood and Lycan Hopefully it will expand even further. Imo it should

[today]

Haha, yeah thanks for briging it up randomly mister :] I'll +rep when i can, need to spread.

Though you gave many vaild points along with Catszy too ;D

[Soil]

5. It seems that saurav or maybe others see this council as a way to get mods/smods/admins fired which is definitely not the case.

No we don't :S
I actually think the super mods on this forum are good. Just the moderators who dont work properly. If they did, it wouldnt take over 10 days to sort out some rule breakings. I know some get sorted out quickly, but in some forum such as Discuss Anything, they seem to take ages. I was suggesting you ask a super mod to spend more time moderating that forum with 4 forum moderators.
I only asked you to fire one moderator (for his attitude) - devil (cant remember the full name).
Me and others involved in the idea have never said this is our way to get smods fired etc. Council members (like Hollywood said) will only suggest ideas for the forums. If they feel the moderating isnt done properly, they could suggest that you hire more mods.

I honestly think you should step down as Forum Manager. As you have so many jobs, I am sure you have limited time on the forum (as a forum manager).