Am I in the wrong?

[Excellent2]

Okay hi guys. I've done some work for Tim. on HxF. I took a deposit at the start and made clear this was for my labour, I don't take full payments until work is finished. I have done most of the work but there is some that I just don't have time to do. I have told Tim in recent weeks that I have work and college + christmas to deal with, he cannot accept this.

Granted I haven't finished the work but the £5 deposit was made clear it was for my labour purposes only. Tim is now refusing to take my work and say he can do bits of it from a tutorial. This is not my problem that Tim will not accept my work.

So am I right or wrong to keep the deposit even though I stated it was for labour purposes.

Thanks


Thread closed by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Due to arguments.

[Tim.]

Im the person who purchased this. I will infact state that he says nearly completed i dont class this as nearly completed:

http://www.igoboy.com/derek/register.php
http://www.igoboy.com/derek/login.php

These are the original specs i sent him ( I think you'll find its nothing like it!)

Profiles - Can set private or public so only friends see, Displays avatar information about them photos and albums displayed, users can set articles and reviews as their favourites which will be displayed, Different Skins, displays Friends, also displays Blog entries, and Comments - Set out basically live nivade.com with the extra features
*Blogs - Add/Remove/Edit With a possibly of photos being able to be added, i need your thoughts on this.
*Photos and albums - Users can upload photos organise them etc, aswell as set their favourite albums which will appear on their profiles
*Classified adverts users can post in two categories, Buy/Sell or Band Members They select the Location, Add a Title and Its displayed a bit like ebay, photos can be added, One photo for normal users up to 5 for VIPS
*VIP - I sent you a file with most of the vip stuff in
*Articles + Reviews Submit - Users can create articles and reviews and submit them with up to 5 photos in, then we either approve them and add them manually or disaprove and delete them. When we approve them there is a counter for each user so we know who has done how many. In their profiles i'd like us to be able to add submitted articles/reviews with the title as a link to them
*Bands - Users can post their band names etc with Normal users able to submit 3 Photos, VIPS able to submit unlimited - able to edit, add any gigs, or past gigs, add sound files, normal users can add up to 5 vips unlimited. Users can rate the bands, then on the homepage it displays the latest updated band pages with one of the images, it also displays the HOT bands, and has a browse bands and search for band features
*Events/Gigs, users post events gigs with contact information and photos, Normal 3 Photos vips able to submit unlimited.
*VIP Extra feature - Normal Users can upload up to 20 photos, VIPS unlimited
*There will obviously be the user centre when they log in just make this like nivade. Users can have a reasonable avatar size and file size, vips can have bigger etc
*There will be homepages for BLOGS and Photos, They will display the latest added and the most viewed aswell as the add/remove/view my blogs etc etc

VIP Features -

Skin Changer
Ability To Post Classified Ads (With Colours, Boldness Etc + Small Image)
Exclusive VIP Competitions
@disciplesofrhythm.com email with 5 GB Space
Exclusive VIP Chat area
Exclusive Interviews and Reviews Before Everyone else
Exclusive chat with famous people away from public chat
Upload bigger video and image sizes (And quicker possibly)

Try it for yourself. The profiles and blogs are a joke, the admin control bit is also a joke considering users can access it. I CANT use this as it is. It wasnt 'CLEARLY' state it was for labour, and Jak the person im developing a website with infact was asked on atleast one occcasion for more money,

[Pazza]

So long as you made it clear, as far as I am aware your fine.

Although i think it would be better for you to finish it after christmas

EDIT: After seeing tim.'s post, I think he should get a full refund TBH, if not a Partial one as if he paid £5 for effort it looks like not much has gone into it

[Excellent2]

So long as you made it clear, as far as I am aware your fine.

Although i think it would be better for you to finish it after christmas

I said I could continue but Tim is set on setting deadlines. I am busy this year, I cannot work to deadlines. As I'm on a mac and using a rubbish messenger it doesn't give me the option to save chatlogs so I can't exactly prove anything, but neither can Tim.

[Excellent2]

And also to Tim's post above. You kept on adding features daily to the file. I in no way did agree to additional features, all I said I could do was try.


Edited by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not double post.

[Tim.]

Actualy i kept running through the features, I moved the deadline from the 15th of Dec to the 25TH WHICH YOU AGREED ON. even with the extra features after that point i added no more. i know im not allowed to post chat logs but heres on, Jak the person who keeps records!

19:49) elJAY loves LOUI: ace
(19:49) Tim aka Derek: our launch has been moved to January 31st Because it sounds better, so I am hoping you'll have completed by December 25th, Am i being un reasonable there?
(19:49) elJAY loves LOUI: no no, thats fine.

And at this point i had given all the extras to him. And not added anything else

[Excellent2]

Actualy i kept running through the features, I moved the deadline from the 15th of Dec to the 25TH WHICH YOU AGREED ON. even with the extra features after that point i added no more.

I agreed to the dealine, I never said that I didn't agree to it. It's christmas and I'm very busy, I couldn't complete.

[Source]

its only a bloody user system. Give him the money back, Im sure its worth it just to get this "child" off of your back.

[Tomm]

Pay him for what he did and hire someone else to finish it off.

Even if he did not complete it all you still owe him money for what he did do.

[Excellent2]

Pay him for what he did and hire someone else to finish it off.

Even if he did not complete it all you still owe him money for what he did do.

Honestly my work wasn't up to scratch so I'm just looking to keep the deposit.