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    Default Why not to vote labour

    Labour has been in power for over 13 years, beginning 1997 with Tony Blair as leader. A government that has been around that long has had enough time to implement their vision for Britain. For me this vision has led to the most deleterious impact on the economy, on the mood of the nation, on education, on how people treat each other and the ever increasing intrusion of government into peoples personal lives. Here are the reasons I wont be voting Labour (in no particular order):

    1. Budget deficit at an all time high.
    The budget deficit is expected to reach £176 billion this year, a huge amount. And it continues to grow. The Labour government has been in power for 13 years now with Gordon Brown managing the budget for 10 of those years and Alistair Darling giving his third and hopefully last budget this year. What does this all mean? It means that the government is unsustainable and if they continue we will all be bankrupt.

    2. Civil liberties eroded.
    Since Labour has come to power, they have introduced over 3600 new laws (that's from 1997 till 2008 so there will be more added to that number). http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/more-than-3600-new-offenc... . The most destructive are the anti-terrorism laws that allow police to detain anyone without cause. These laws have been used consistently against innocent citizens. The UK has the Largest DNA database of innocent people, the most CCTV cameras per person of any nation. We are not any safer as a nation, but are more likely to be breaking the law without even knowing which law is being broken.

    3. Unfair tax system.
    Labours has destroyed the definition of the word "Fair". Cash incentives for people to buy cars, tax breaks for some on buying houses, and many more tax breaks. However, I don't have a car or a house, yet I'm supporting those that are. The word “fair” is being used in their current campaign and are using it extensively in their interviews. They define a fair tax system as one where the higher earners (and by definition those that already pay more tax), should pay even more. People earning over £150,000 (I'm not one of those) get pushed into the 50% tax bracket. What incentive is there for people to actually work and support the economy if the government will just take your money away from you. Money is better managed by people spending it in the economy that handing it over to the government to fritter away.

    4. This election is all about validating Gordon Brown.
    The election win for Gordon Brown is not about Labour or the economy or a fair system for all. An election win for Gordon Brown will mean he has been elected by the people. Currently he is a Prime Minister who has been handed the job by Tony Blair, not a Prime Minister that has been voted in. This is the reason he is holding on for so long despite all those in his government plotting to get rid of him.

    5. Expense scandal and lobbying scandal.
    There is not much to say about this other than its criminal. The following document published on the parliament.uk website, outlines the history of MP salaries and what they are currently at now, expenses and all. It is a bit of a revelation as to the huge amount of benefits they can claim and also why so many of them hire their own family. They have over £100,000 pounds to hire personal staff.

    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/M05.pdf
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...relatives.html

    6. Building a high tech economy.
    What does this even mean and what does the government know about high tech? Is it about there being more computer users, higher internet speeds, more use of the internet ? The governments role is not to make people more computer literate or use the internet more or make businesses high tech. All this is the product of the market and the only way the market (and the economy) can improve is for the government to stay out of it. I don't want to pay for people who don't want to use the internet, or be forced to own a computer. It sounds ominously like Big Brother.

    7. The Government is the highest advertiser in the UK.
    The government spent £540 million on advertising in the past year ending March 2010. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/more-than-3600-new-offenc...
    All this spending is about changing peoples behaviour and making people think a certain way. I don't want my taxes spent on propaganda. Government take note. . . you can save half a billion on the budget deficit immediately by stopping the propaganda machine.

    8. NHS is a mess.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...rontline-staff
    http://www.publicfinance.co.uk/news/...4-in-a-decade/
    At this rate there will be more management siphoning off NHS funds than doctors, nurses and specialist.

    9. The Nanny Culture.
    The government feels the need to control every aspect of peoples lives, to tell people what to eat, how much to drink, what to think. Taken together with the half a billion spent on advertising, people should be concerned at what memes the government is indoctrinating into peoples minds (and brainwashing children's). What this shows is Labours condescending view of its citizens.

    10. Living in fear.
    Fear seems to be the driving force of the Labour government. It is a powerful tool used to subdue the masses. Terrorism, climate change, smoking (first second and third hand), paedophiles around every corner, obesity epidemic, banking crisis, greedy bankers, swine flu, just to name a few. Now see how many laws Labour has passed down based on these.

    This government has become far to big, has far to many fingers in every pie, and in order to exist it will continue to grow and eat up all the resources of the workers. Such a government is not sustainable. When I go to work day after day, week after week, year after year, I'm working to support my life. At least that is what I thought, however increasingly I've come to the realisation that I'm actually a cash cow for this government. I'm one of the few that doesn't live of any government handouts, doesn't use the NHS and has paid taxes in full every year. Labour's Unfair is more accurate of their policies.

    And lets not even mention EU because that deserves its own page

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    Personally I don't see why everyone is going politics crazy on here, it's not as if somebody's forum post is going to change anybodies mind - and even if they did, as if the one vote changed by HxF would make the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    Personally I don't see why everyone is going politics crazy on here, it's not as if somebody's forum post is going to change anybodies mind - and even if they did, as if the one vote changed by HxF would make the difference
    Its called voting for what YOU believe in. It shows that you care about YOUR life and YOUR country and that you want to make a change to make YOUR life and other peoples easier to lead.

    This is what politics is about, and yes 1 vote may seem insignificant to you but that could be the difference between a new Conservative government or the same old rubbish weve had rotting away in number 10 for the last 13 years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kardan View Post
    Personally I don't see why everyone is going politics crazy on here, it's not as if somebody's forum post is going to change anybodies mind - and even if they did, as if the one vote changed by HxF would make the difference
    General Election incoming! This place goes political affairs bonkers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam666 View Post
    Its called voting for what YOU believe in. It shows that you care about YOUR life and YOUR country and that you want to make a change to make YOUR life and other peoples easier to lead.

    This is what politics is about, and yes 1 vote may seem insignificant to you but that could be the difference between a new Conservative government or the same old rubbish weve had rotting away in number 10 for the last 13 years.
    If I vote for what I believe in, I'm not going to be pursuaded by something on here I think that goes for pretty much everyone on here

    And even though it's possible, I'm pretty sure the Tories won't win by just one vote.

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    I have a better thread idea: Why not to listen to titch.

    All that stuff has been happening for like ever, its not gonna change overnight as soon as a new political party gets in, red tape n dat will stop all of that.

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    Don't vote for that ****

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    A thread like this could be made for any party.
    (h)(h)(h)

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    Haha Nick Griffin! Haha

    In more serious terms, i would never vote Labour.

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    After 13 years of what I would call a failed attempt to make britain better surely another party deserves a chance? and then if the new party in power fails then they deserve to be voted out? These people who still support Labour remind me of loving deluded relatives who keep giving their gambling drunk relation some cash to pay all the household bills only to find out its all been pissed up the wall and put on horses.......

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