AGM Staff

[Matt]

Why is there still no AGM Staff? Surely if you introduced this role again the workload for GM would be made a lot easier and allow for more time to focus on stuff like staff achievements and improving Habbox in general. Sorting out perms and staff discipline should be kept separate and I have no idea why it was merged into the GM role to begin with. The GM is still cc'd into every Private Message sent out (regarding staff) so it's not like you're going to be kept in the dark. At the moment, the General Manager would be spending so much time dealing with complaints, permissions and stuff that an AGM Staff could be dealing with - devote your time to other stuff regarding the actual wellbeing and performance of Habbox rather than dealing with staff.

Maybe it's because there's no one ready enough for the role or idk, but at the moment wouldn't the General Manager be spending like 60-70% of their time with staff then 40-30% of it on other stuff. That's what it seems like anyway and if it's kept like that, it will take like 2 years to implement something that could've been done in weeks.


So please introduce this role again, thanks

[FlyingJesus]

Staff ought to be handled mainly by their immediate managers (otherwise there's no point having managers) and there are like 50 admins so permissions I'm sure aren't gonna be that slow in coming around when things need to be changed. Don't really see a need for an extra position, perhaps a bit more responsibility given to managers if there really is a problem with staff complaints and such but I don't think we have any particular problems that would be solved by creating another role

[Brad]

Staff ought to be handled mainly by their immediate managers (otherwise there's no point having managers) and there are like 50 admins so permissions I'm sure aren't gonna be that slow in coming around when things need to be changed. Don't really see a need for an extra position, perhaps a bit more responsibility given to managers if there really is a problem with staff complaints and such but I don't think we have any particular problems that would be solved by creating another role

Technically the only person (When I was manager) that did any perms were done through Chris.. no one else.
I think this role does need to be implemented back in. Not saying that this team now, more specifically Chris, can't handle it... I'm saying that being the General Manager shouldn't you have more influence on other things rather than focused more on staff... @mdport.; Makes some valid statements.

[Alkaz]

I'm sure that when Chris merged his current role with his previous he delegated more of the complaints side of AGM (Staff) role to the individual AGMs so he is still aware of goings on and can still have an overriding say in things but more of it is alleviated away from his main duties as GM.

[e5]

Chris probably feels he can deal with the staff side as things as well being GM. Maybe he enjoyed being staff GM too much so doesn't want to give it up . I always wondered when it was coming back though.

[Inseriousity.]

I don't think it's necessary. The role of staff AGM can easily be divided by the general management team.
You're merging two issues that are entirely seperate imo.

The reason things take so long to complete is that there's no accountability. AGMs work on projects that are hush-hush (all to surprise the community you see although not sure how you can surprise the community with 'nothing'). I say projects, it's usually 1 at a time. Multitasking is not an option. If there are any obstacles with the projects - and let's be fair here, these projects aren't exactly easy. Obstacles are bound to come up - then it can be swept under the carpet and ignored. Maybe now and again the AGM will come back to it and make a little progress but as no-one has a clue what they're doing it doesn't matter so much if they don't.

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[Kyle]

Agm staff is an administrative role that should be dispersed between other agms but it isn't and right now Chris is just a glorified version of his previous role.


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[Chris]

I quite clearly explained how it would work when the role was dissolved and at the time it was a well received change. You can read it all here: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...99#post8279099

[lawrawrrr]

I was fairly against the idea when it was suggested but it's pretty much working fine! Me and Sho deal with basic staff complaints, then we ask Chris if it's something more serious, we OK extended away times, whereas Chris does the perms. The only time we ever really have an issue is when Chris is away and Matt's the only person able to do perms but usually Chris has some access and generally does them anyway. I haven't really noticed a huge difference onto my workload without the staff AGM there, so I'm pretty much happy to stay the way it is!

[Rachel]

One of the fansites I have worked for as Radio Manager, all managers were allowed to give/remove their staff perms for their own department of course. I know here works differently as managers has to request it in the specific forum.